Stop moaning about troll results!!

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

Yeah the results are decided before the game starts based on the prevailing circumstances...And then again a re-simulation is done based on the current circumstance when the game stops for break that is at the 45 minute...

I have been done enough experiment before arriving to this conclusion...

You guys should also try the experiments...

Experiment 1) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match and then at the break use a legal formation...

Experiment 2) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a legal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Experiment 3) Set your squad to an legal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a illegal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Do these things and observer the results carefully...

I am pretty sure the results are pre -determined...But there are check points where the game is re - simulated again...Currently I don't know the number of Check Points when the game is re - simulated but seeing the number of trolls its not more than 2 ( at the start and at the end )...

If there were 4,5 instances when the game was re -simulated the number of troll would not have been so high...These game just works like a dice in which the results is based on the circumstances...

Lets consider there is A team with 30 quality vs a team with 70 quality...Now considering a fair dice the team having 70 quality should win 7 out of 10 times....

But if the dice is being thrown only 2 times the chances are high that the team having 30 quality could also win but if the dice is being thrown 5,6 times then the team having 70 quality will come out as the winner maximum number of times...If we further increase the number of throw of dice then perhaps the team with 30 quality will never win......

[HULIANO]

Yeah the results are decided before the game starts based on the prevailing circumstances...And then again a re-simulation is done based on the current circumstance when the game stops for break that is at the 45 minute...

I have been done enough experiment before arriving to this conclusion...

You guys should also try the experiments...

Experiment 1) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match and then at the break use a legal formation...

Experiment 2) Set your squad to an illegal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a legal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Experiment 3) Set your squad to an legal formation and then arrange a friendly match. As the match starts us a illegal formation and then at the break again us an illegal formation...

Do these things and observer the results carefully...

I am pretty sure the results are pre -determined...But there are check points where the game is re - simulated again...Currently I don't know the number of Check Points when the game is re - simulated but seeing the number of trolls its not more than 2 ( at the start and at the end )...

If there were 4,5 instances when the game was re -simulated the number of troll would not have been so high...These game just works like a dice in which the results is based on the circumstances...

Lets consider there is A team with 30 quality vs a team with 70 quality...Now considering a fair dice the team having 70 quality should win 7 out of 10 times....

But if the dice is being thrown only 2 times the chances are high that the team having 30 quality could also win but if the dice is being thrown 5,6 times then the team having 70 quality will come out as the winner maximum number of times...If we further increase the number of throw of dice then perhaps the team with 30 quality will never win......

I'm with you. I think the results are pre-determined. Those 3 minutes before the match starts and half-time break are 2 check points. There are other 1 or 2 other check points, each in the middle of the 1st half and 2nd half, where the time just suddenly stops for like 10-20 seconds. (sometime this check point only occur 1 time either in the 1st half or the 2nd half).

Another evidence I found is that when I lost wifi connection and reconnected after 1.5 mins (I was not kicked out of the game), the game continued at the minute when the match is stopped due to lost wifi signal, and continued even though the game already finished in real time. My conclusion, the game is not real time-based, so the result is predetermined at least at each check point.

So yeah, if you change players at the 80th minute, and you're losing and you turn the match around, it looks like your decision affects the game result, but it actually does not.

[Tommy Vernersson]

I have lost connection 2 times. And once i log back on after 5 minutes - the game is over. It doesn't stop for me, and i dont believe at all that the result is pre-determined. It's based on formations and quality... that's why you have the power to change tactic etc during the game. And if you haven't noticed - the game switch pretty drastic once you change something. It might be pre-determined vs robot players, but not vs real ppl.

[HULIANO]

I have lost connection 2 times. And once i log back on after 5 minutes - the game is over. It doesn't stop for me, and i dont believe at all that the result is pre-determined. It's based on formations and quality... that's why you have the power to change tactic etc during the game. And if you haven't noticed - the game switch pretty drastic once you change something. It might be pre-determined vs robot players, but not vs real ppl.

When I lost connection, I did not refresh. When I got the connection again, the game continued where it was left. That's what I am talking about, during the match there are check points, if you make changes after that last check points, your decision won't affect the game.

The difference between web-based TE game and a real FM (run on our PCs) is that the latter probably has check point every single second or even has a continuously re-stimulated programming algorithms.

So for instance, if in a match two managers do not watch their games (so no decisions will be made during the match), the result is pretty much pre-determined.

I don't know if you get my idea, but I think it's the way of this game. Otherwise they can't handle millions of real-time matches with a handful of servers.

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

When I lost connection, I did not refresh. When I got the connection again, the game continued where it was left. That's what I am talking about, during the match there are check points, if you make changes after that last check points, your decision won't affect the game.

The difference between web-based TE game and a real FM (run on our PCs) is that the latter probably has check point every single second or even has a continuously re-stimulated programming algorithms.

So for instance, if in a match two managers do not watch their games (so no decisions will be made during the match), the result is pretty much pre-determined.

I don't know if you get my idea, but I think it's the way of this game. Otherwise they can't handle millions of real-time matches with a handful of servers.

Hehehe you got it first......

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

So for instance, if in a match two managers do not watch their games (so no decisions will be made during the match), the result is pretty much pre-determined.

Even then there is chance any one can win because it might be in the first simulation one team is winning and when the game simulates again it simulates for the other team to win......

[HULIANO]

Even then there is chance any one can win because it might be in the first simulation one team is winning and when the game simulates again it simulates for the other team to win......

It's like flipping the coin. Gotta love Statistics bro )

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

It's like flipping the coin. Gotta love Statistics bro )

Yeah agreed but its a biased coin in favor of the stronger team bro......

[Siddharth Shanker Singh]

I have lost connection 2 times. And once i log back on after 5 minutes - the game is over. It doesn't stop for me, and i dont believe at all that the result is pre-determined. It's based on formations and quality... that's why you have the power to change tactic etc during the game. And if you haven't noticed - the game switch pretty drastic once you change something. It might be pre-determined vs robot players, but not vs real ppl.

Logging back is a different thing...I your internet connection gets stuck in the between and you do not refresh the browser and when its back again your match will start form the same time as if nothing happened between the time your internet was not working...

You can also try this - When you are watching a live match and the match is about to be finish leave the match and go to any other option like fixtures, transfer market then closely watch your morale, condition and treatment packs, you will notice that they get incremented before the match in finished...

And who said the results are pre - determined you can influence them by making changes but that change will have a affect in the game only after a check point where the simulation is being done again......

[Celtic]

I have lost connection 2 times. And once i log back on after 5 minutes - the game is over. It doesn't stop for me, and i dont believe at all that the result is pre-determined. It's based on formations and quality... that's why you have the power to change tactic etc during the game. And if you haven't noticed - the game switch pretty drastic once you change something. It might be pre-determined vs robot players, but not vs real ppl.

It has been proven that penalty shootouts are totally pre determined. You just need two android phones. Watch a game and ask your friend to leave near minute 120. Tell him to check Friends' Fixtures. Your result is ready while you are still waiting for the players to take the penalty shots.