New Transfer playing poorly (bad ratings)

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06-15-2014
Cody Allan Taylor

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New Transfer playing poorly (bad ratings)
Hi guys,

Meet Jack Fawcett:

Attachment 24386

On paper, great player. High value, young, and talented (38.8, 37.6, 38.8 skills). However, his ratings are honestly terrible.

First game:
- League game
- 0-1 Home Loss
- Weaker opponent (even before transfer)
- 5 rating (DR also rated 5)
- Took a yellow card
Second game:
- League game
- 1-2 Road Win
- Stronger opponent
- 4 rating
Third game:
- Champions League, Rnd 6
- 2-4 Home Loss (Result did not matter, played B-team)
- 5 rating
Fourth game:
- League game
- 4-0 Home Win
- Comparable opponent
- Scored goal at 37'
- 6 rating
Fifth game:
- Cup, Top 16, 2nd Leg
- 2-0 Home Win
- Weaker opponent
- 6 rating
Sixth game:
- League game
- 1-7 Home Win
- Weaker opponent
- Subbed off at 77'
- 4 rating
Should I sell or am I over-reacting here?
06-15-2014
Siddharth Shanker Singh

Just be little more patient with him...:)...
06-15-2014
Cat Harrison

Compare his skills (attributes) against a player that does well in the Role he plays. Add skill points towards that. Also try moving him around if you are playing him as DMC, I had a DMC/R that preferred the left spot when playing as a DMC. When adding young players, sometimes it takes awhile to get them up to speed, I try to avoid playing them in important matches their first Season, when possible. :)
06-15-2014
Cody Allan Taylor
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

Compare his skills (attributes) against a player that does well in the Role he plays. Add skill points towards that.

I'm extremely picky about my player training...

Players who previously held his starting-11 spot:
- Miloslav Merrick, MC: 30, 31, 30
- Alexander Marlow, DML/ML: 35.6, 36.8, 35.6
- Alfred Bagni, DC/DMC: 25.8, 16.6, 20.8
- Sal Bragg, DMC: 21.8, 17.6, 19.6
I never change my arrow tactics for a particular formation and rarely change the "Team Mentality", so it's pretty safe to say that the role isn't any different for the two extremely defensive trained players than the two offensive trained players.

I am gonna try changing his role training though, see if that makes a difference. It's the only thing I haven't done for this player that I have done for the others. My next match he'll be playing DMR in a different formation, so we'll see how that goes.
06-15-2014
Buffs Mad

Tbh although the suggestions are good I'd need to decide one thing first....is this player worth the hassle. If you can't easily replace him with a similar player I'd make an effort with him. If you can I'd kick him into the long grass and try another. Personally speaking, I'd *punt*. ;)
06-15-2014
kynan

Some players seem to go through cycles where they are great or poor. I suppose my advice would depend on what your current squad options and token levels are.

Do you have suitable cover to drop him for a game or two - or is he a player who would be an important cog in your team? If its the latter, then maybe he is worth sticking with. Sometimes a player that is dreadful one season will become your star player the next.

I'd also say it would depend on your token level. If you are on a limited budget, it isn't really economical to ditch the player, as you will need to use more tokens to get a replacement in. Obviously if you have hundreds/thousands of tokens, then splashing out on a new player is slightly easier.

I personally would stick with him for a while longer. Even if not playing him for the rest of this season, using the theory that some players who are dreadful one season are great the next, he could become really useful to you next season.
06-15-2014
Cody Allan Taylor

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He played better this game! He even had an assist to my "B-team" AMR (52', 2nd goal)! :)

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I rarely play 3 defender formations, but this worked really well. He earned a few more starts. Still on thin ice, though!
06-16-2014
Qambu Yaasi

One rule for me - 5-5-5-5-5 is forgivable, but once you hit a 4 then you're out.
06-16-2014
Christian Christiansen

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Originally Posted by Qambu Yaasi

One rule for me - 5-5-5-5-5 is forgivable, but once you hit a 4 then you're out.

For me 6-6-6-6-6 is unforgivable
06-16-2014
Skidz

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cat Harrison

Compare his skills (attributes) against a player that does well in the Role he plays. Add skill points towards that. Also try moving him around if you are playing him as DMC, I had a DMC/R that preferred the left spot when playing as a DMC. When adding young players, sometimes it takes awhile to get them up to speed, I try to avoid playing them in important matches their first Season, when possible. :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kynan

Some players seem to go through cycles where they are great or poor. I suppose my advice would depend on what your current squad options and token levels are.

Do you have suitable cover to drop him for a game or two - or is he a player who would be an important cog in your team? If its the latter, then maybe he is worth sticking with. Sometimes a player that is dreadful one season will become your star player the next.

I'd also say it would depend on your token level. If you are on a limited budget, it isn't really economical to ditch the player, as you will need to use more tokens to get a replacement in. Obviously if you have hundreds/thousands of tokens, then splashing out on a new player is slightly easier.

I personally would stick with him for a while longer. Even if not playing him for the rest of this season, using the theory that some players who are dreadful one season are great the next, he could become really usef ul to you next season.

Hi bud, why did you try him in a dr position?, you penalised him for trying him out of position, second whenever you get multi skilled players it is always a trial by error for a few games because he may play good in one or the other position . You also need to find the best formation suited to him but most times if you bought him for a paticular formation and he-still does not perform then try resting him but keep up the training, then slot him in again, if he is young then give him a season to settle in and he might come good next season.
Something to look at is the whole team stats after a game because not every player( playing in that match) will keep getting high ratings!, if you have othet good performers they will be stealing the limelight so to speek!, having said that every player should get good ratings sometime.
06-16-2014
Buffs Mad

I often have to forgive one of my MCs - he gets penalised in the ratings for biting legs too often and sometimes the play passes him by being stuck right in the centre. Then I feel sorry for him and give him a red arrow just so he gets out of the 6s or 7s. ;) Making a player the focus of play for a couple of games is, for me, a good test of whether has has it or not.
08-28-2014
Cody Allan Taylor

Just an update. I sold this player recently. He was never really worth the trouble. He rarely had good games. I can point more games where he was at-fault for a loss than the opposite.

He sold for just over $4M at the start of three seasons later. He didn't train well after he turned 20 either.
08-28-2014
jacks

I found that if the player costs extremely high (compared to the other ones) and his season wage is extremely high too then he is a bad player. Ah, forgot to say that very often players with height <180 plays like **** for me. I've got player worth 13M and his quality 46- sold him after his bad play. For avoiding this l'm buying players that
1)costs high and his season wage is low compared to the other ones.
2)height must be over 180.
08-29-2014
Cody Allan Taylor

I've kind of found that true as well. The exception is AML position.
08-29-2014
Nigel Baker

Very interesting Thread!
I have often bought new players ...normally young with high wages and if they score 5's and 6's in first few games I get rid!
Maybe I should be a bit more patient...lol
I also look at the speed of training and get rid if slow trainers
I can't believe they are all bad players but don't know how long to wait to see if the trend changes.
Very interesting to see other peoples views.
08-29-2014
Philip L. Willis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buffs Mad

I often have to forgive one of my MCs - he gets penalised in the ratings for biting legs too often and sometimes the play passes him by being stuck right in the centre. Then I feel sorry for him and give him a red arrow just so he gets out of the 6s or 7s. ;) Making a player the focus of play for a couple of games is, for me, a good test of whether has has it or not.

You're like a cupid manager, shoot them with an arrow.
08-30-2014
Sherifon
Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Allan Taylor

Hi guys,

Meet Jack Fawcett:

Attachment 24386

On paper, great player. High value, young, and talented (38.8, 37.6, 38.8 skills). However, his ratings are honestly terrible.

First game:

League game
0-1 Home Loss
Weaker opponent (even before transfer)
5 rating (DR also rated 5)
Took a yellow card

Second game:

League game
1-2 Road Win
Stronger opponent
4 rating

Third game:

Champions League, Rnd 6
2-4 Home Loss (Result did not matter, played B-team)
5 rating

Fourth game:

League game
4-0 Home Win
Comparable opponent
Scored goal at 37'
6 rating

Fifth game:

Cup, Top 16, 2nd Leg
2-0 Home Win
Weaker opponent
6 rating

Sixth game:

League game
1-7 Home Win
Weaker opponent
Subbed off at 77'
4 rating

Should I sell or am I over-reacting here?
4 = kill that bastar..