Iam sorry if iam doing a mistake by asking this really as it s my first tme for me in here but my questin is ( how i can beat 43w12 !! ) i do read alot of comments in this site about it and no one is giving the best counter formation ... i do used 4411 , 451v and bothe didnt do the jop ... so how i can beat it !! ) note i dont have DML really in my team loool!!