Incredible dip in training speed.

[Cat Harrison]

Every bracket they drop a bit. Continuous training gives slightly diminished gain.

I haven't noticed anything changed in what I expect in training gains, but I have an older team.

Here's how mine do in training:







@Gintaras Yulishar (I cannot spell) will have a big drop next star and next season, I had a fast old guy (Pee Wee Wallace) and look at him this Ssn..

Their age/value/wage:

[Buffs Mad]

My 22 yo who was never the fastest trainer but just decent just got 15/52/83 on hard. His rate has not fallen off a cliff.

I suspect your observations are being skewed by having a fast training 25yo to compare to.

But as I said before you might be observing a glitch or more likely a persistent low end result (large variation).

[Gintaras Račas]

Here's what I thought this morning: since training speed depends on market value, maybe my players were training slow because they have a lot of unassigned SPs (25-30 each). So I assigned all 370 saved SPs. The said players went up about 2Q levels, most gained 4th*. The market value increased to be slightly higher than at the end of last season.

And guess what? NOTHING.

Just more horrible examples:

1) Stretching on normal. All these 22 y. olds were gaining at least TWICE more than this 24 y. old last season


2) Cardio on normal. Looks like these two switched their training speed: now the 23 y. o. is gaining what the 22 y. o. was gaining last season. 11% on cardio, that's what a SCOUT of his age would earn but Sieber is NOT a scout, he's 2SPs off his 3rd* star...

[Gintaras Račas]

I suspect your observations are being skewed by having a fast training 25yo to compare to.

I said somewhere at the beginning that those 25 y. olds were never fast trainers. I have them for at least 3 seasons.

[Buffs Mad]

I said somewhere at the beginning that those 25 y. olds were never fast trainers. I have them for at least 3 seasons.

I know what you said. I tried to match your results but couldn't. Not much more I can say.

[Mirrowka]

It used to be always like that.... I buy players only for 4 seasons ... in age 23 are too old and slow for me... I always sell them.. there are always managers out there who buy them .. so no worries there... I have 23 players in my squad , average age is 20.1 . Enough said.

[tongly45]

LOL, try to search in the forum. this is something known for 2 years
there are brackette : 18-21 yo, 22-25 yo; 26-29 yo; 30-33 yo
it's quite normal that your fast trainer slow his trainning when he is 22. and a 25yo player can better than your 22 yo easily if when he was 21 yo he has better than the one now 22 yo when he(22yo) was 21 yo
42Q and 7m6 mean they are just good trainner but not the best one,

[Gintaras Račas]

LOL, try to search in the forum. this is something known for 2 years
there are brackette : 18-21 yo, 22-25 yo; 26-29 yo; 30-33 yo
it's quite normal that your fast trainer slow his trainning when he is 22. and a 25yo player can better than your 22 yo easily if when he was 21 yo he has better than the one now 22 yo when he(22yo) was 21 yo
42Q and 7m6 mean they are just good trainner but not the best one,

I highly doubt that I could've bought a 25 y. o. who when at age of 21 was a faster trainer than my 21 y. o. (now 22) who somtimes was getting nearly 200% from a match WITHOUT MOTM.

Also, look at other examples with 23, 24 y. olds. I had the when they were 21 and they were NOT fast trainers.

[tongly45]

I highly doubt that I could've bought a 25 y. o. who when at age of 21 was a faster trainer than my 21 y. o. (now 22) who somtimes was getting nearly 200% from a match WITHOUT MOTM.

Also, look at other examples with 23, 24 y. olds. I had the when they were 21 and they were NOT fast trainers.

6* training speed drop also, did the 22 yo is 5* player ? are they near 6* (mean 1Q to 6*, non assigned points must be counted in ) i see clearly your 23-24yo aren't fast trainer

[Gintaras Račas]

2) Cardio on normal. Looks like these two switched their training speed: now the 23 y. o. is gaining what the 22 y. o. was gaining last season. 11% on cardio, that's what a SCOUT of his age would earn but Sieber is NOT a scout, he's 2SPs off his 3rd* star...

Here's a qoute of my own post. I'm fully aware that training speed drops significantly with 6th*.
Unfortunately, the 22 y. olds that we are talking about here are 2, 3 and 4 stars.