Normal/attacking mentality

This season I've noticed that playing in the attacking mentality results in a poorer team performance than in the normal mode. Hard attacking mode seems to be working just fine with players taking their chances (and scoring) more often, but I don't like playing this way so I tend to avoid it.
Switching from attacking to normal mentality seems to result in my players being more active in the field, also ball possession sems to be higher.
This quite is the opposite to what I observed in the previous seasons, so is this just coincidence or a change in the algorithms?

Attacking style is still giving me good results...:D...

I usually use normal and I change that only when I have to score. Today I've played against south2 team, we both used normal mentality, i had 3-0 lead in 27'. Hard attacking is risky because your team then leaves much space for counterattacks.

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Attacking style is still giving me good results...:D...

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Yeah but your teams are favoured by divine grace and I'm not sure if I can take this into account ;)

The only that I don't use because I saw that do nothing is hard attacking... I use attacking usually, and hard defensive in the case I play against better Q. teams and wanna try to have a benefit of the long passing..

for me, works as aways :)

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Originally Posted by Anna Martyniec

Yeah but your teams are favoured by divine grace and I'm not sure if I can take this into account ;)

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If you want then I can give you some of that so called DIVINE GRACE to your team also...:cool:...

LOL Sidd is from India, they have plenty of this "religious things and stuff" :D

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Originally Posted by t11_fan

LOL Sidd is from India, they have plenty of this "religious things and stuff" :D

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Yo Yo Yo...And many holidays too because of all this...:cool:...

Attacking style works for me only vs. much stronger teams, and I use hard attacking only if I'm 2+ goals behind. In general, I start all games cautiously defensive, CA down both flanks until I see what direction the game will proceed...

Playing with Hard attacking is good when you change your tactics mid game and you sure that is a right change but the opponent team is winning.

normal and defensive usually doesn't work with me, I prefer normal > Hard attacking > hard defending ..

as we can comprove ladies & gentleman seems curious but everyone have his own viewpoint LOL

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Originally Posted by khris

as we can comprove ladies & gentleman seems curious but everyone have his own viewpoint LOL

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This proves the fact that strategies and tactics don't matter at all...If they mattered then there is no way everyone would have come with different opinions...

What ever once clicks for any one... We tend to think that it's the best strategy...

For me some formations prefer either Normal or Attacking.

Attacking formations I attack.
Flexible formations I go normal and then test attacking for a short period if I think it wise then stick with it or change back.
Defensive is if I want to pull out a packed defence or face a much higher Q opponent.
Hard Defending is when I'm faced with much higher Q opponent and I think they are attacking.
Hard Attacking for me is usually when I'm desperate or drunk or desperate for drink.

PS. It could be an old wives tale (btw what's this old wife doing here anyway) but if I start Attacking I feel more prone to the 'First 5 mins onslaught' that sometimes happens so I only do that if I think that there's a chance it'll be me doing the onslaught.

PPS But I've just dropped 8pts out of 9 so don't listen to me. >.<

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

This proves the fact that strategies and tactics don't matter at all...If they mattered then there is no way everyone would have come with different opinions...

What ever once clicks for any one... We tend to think that it's the best strategy...

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And if the game is an experience like Matrix? another dimension? and every team is set to play better selecting some options in he place of others to have different experiences per player? ...we really don't know whats inside the game... maybe Nordeus, like did facebook adding different types of news to comprove the reactions, is proving and studying us to comprove our reactions... meybe we are just labortory rats..... maybe a guy is studying us now and have 2 folders... one say Khris and the other SSS LOL

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Originally Posted by khris

And if the game is an experience like Matrix? another dimension? and every team is set to play better selecting some options in he place of others to have different experiences per player? ...we really don't know whats inside the game... maybe Nordeus, like did facebook adding different types of news to comprove the reactions, is proving and studying us to comprove our reactions... meybe we are just labortory rats..... maybe a guy is studying us now and have 2 folders... one say Khris and the other SSS LOL

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Hahaha the guy observing me must be laughing out loud now thinking: is this girl mental? She's expecting some kind of logic in the game??
And seriously, I'm still keping my eye to the attacking mentality, something's wrong here this season for me. Normal is more attacking then attacking, still getting more ball possession and chances with normal than attacking.

It would be very complicated for me to explain why I use more often normal than attacking, but there is a lot of weird things in this game...

I'm getting quite the opposite results from what you are having Anna,

I find that going attacking makes me score more goals and concede less. The only reason I can think of why I concede less is that my team will be doing all the attacking and the opponent won't get an attacking chance while the clock ticks down as all the highlights comment chances are going to my team.

Everytime I go defensive or hard defensive I concede a goal... Despite blue arrows which I don't think does anything whatsoever.

I have had the same bad luck with the attacking mentality this season. I think it has something to do with the players though. They get powerful in normal mode and concede a lot of goals in attacking!

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Originally Posted by khris

And if the game is an experience like Matrix? another dimension? and every team is set to play better selecting some options in he place of others to have different experiences per player? ...we really don't know whats inside the game... maybe Nordeus, like did facebook adding different types of news to comprove the reactions, is proving and studying us to comprove our reactions... meybe we are just labortory rats..... maybe a guy is studying us now and have 2 folders... one say Khris and the other SSS LOL

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Nice explanation Khris but do you really thing the game goes so deep ???...LoL...

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Originally Posted by Siddharth Shanker Singh

Nice explanation Khris but do you really thing the game goes so deep ???...LoL...

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never say never LOL


About Anna's situation I will go to my usual paper, that say that all is internal proggramming, Usually I have 1 good scorer, ST that scores 1 goal per match or more, and the others ST help but in less intensity.
Some seasons, maybe 1 of every 4-5 I found a excellent MC that won 1/2 league alone.
So I will say that maybe you have to take a look to the numbers of your players and start selling this ST that don't do a minium of work, is good to have 1-2 highlight players in wich you can have confidance, that can be the base of the team, and maybe now you don't have these.
The last player of this type I had was Miroslav Klose, had full of 9-9-9-9-9 in ratings and since the first match when he scored 3 goals and helped me a lot during all his career.
Now I have to say that I don't have this key player, and I have to use the Quality differance after tanking 4 months, that give me a contribution of different players every match. Without have a super star player that scored 30 goals in the season, I won the league thanks the 13 goals of one, 11, and 10 and less that scorer others.
If you don't have this constant and unexpected contribution of one or another, you need your star in the team.

hmmmmmmmmmmm defence defence defence !!!!! for me all the time at least for the 1st half with counter !!! keep it tight and play hard however the more I play the more I think its just quality that counts apart from an odd result so seems like Quality, Quality Quality hun

4-2-2W-2, hard attacking and force counter attack mixed passing. 113 goals scored in the league and 10 conceded. Level 5. I've always played hard attacking and counter attack I usually batter people. Both my strikers are 1-on-1 SA and my wingers are no SA...both my wingers are my top scorers.

It's so great to have so much feedback and various opinions, thank you!
My main point in this thread was the actual effect of using defensive/normal/attacking mentality. I find it hard to understand how they really work, as I've noticed that using attacking results in the team behaving in a more passive way than when using normal mentality.
It seems a bit ambiguous if they actually work at all, so I'll take a closer look next season what real effect they bring about.
All experienced managers - your advice is precious to me, please share some more hints (or divine power) :D

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Originally Posted by Anna Martyniec

My main point in this thread was the actual effect of using defensive/normal/attacking mentality. I find it hard to understand how they really work, as I've noticed that using attacking results in the team behaving in a more passive way than when using normal mentality.

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I don't understand that too, I set my tactic according to experience rather than some logic XD.