Cheats revisited

AS Admin closed the last one here we are again.
Cheats should not be let off the hook.
Persistence does pay after all, another two messages to support with links to forum topics seems to have done the trick.
Well at least in the case of this cheat, I'm sure most will remember him.

http://i46.tinypic.com/2v127up.jpg

At the request of Admin the pasted message from support has been removed and replaced by a fairy tale from never never land.

A little pixie who lives with the gnomes in my garden has a part time job with a support company, well you should hear what he's been telling those cheeky gnomes.
It seems that a well known football game which operates on a social network is not informed when that said company removes A/C from it's social network.
Rolling on the floor, laughing his head off while scratching his fat belly allegedly also said that the A/C holders teams in the image will be removed at the end of this season.

Here's hoping there is now a purge on all multi A/C holders operating with teams in the same league or server, I can certainly think of one more I'd like to see put to the sword.

I am fine with this being discussed, but please remove any transcripts of exchanges with Nordeus Support. It's against the rules to post them on the forums.

aha...

One day, if you saw a pack of gold/money in your garden, dont forget to inform me. I will take it gladly....

Since it is un-ethical to take thing that doesnt belong to u, i will do it on behalf of u :P

Thanks.

i smiled when i saw that the first reply from non-admin is from a multi account player in the same league. hehe...

Guys, this is how the last thread got closed, so please keep it civil.

Thats not cheating its "conflict of interest":p

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Originally Posted by Maxtax

Thats not cheating its "conflict of interest":p

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He has no defenders on one of his teams so the other can win. That is cheating.
I would like to also give my support to the banning of multiple accounts it is against the spirit of sport and competition.

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Originally Posted by MDKII

Guys, this is how the last thread got closed, so please keep it civil.

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Yeah, don't cross the administrators. They'll blacklist you.

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Originally Posted by ice87s

aha...

One day, if you saw a pack of gold/money in your garden, dont forget to inform me. I will take it gladly....

Since it is un-ethical to take thing that doesnt belong to u, i will do it on behalf of u :P

Thanks.

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Raiding the neighbours washing line sounds right up your street.

I jz want to say "don't jealous of him" As you guys were not lucky enough to have 2 accounts on the same server :D

Accept the fact and move on......

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Originally Posted by ice87s

I jz want to say "don't jealous of him" As you guys were not lucky enough to have 2 accounts on the same server :D

Accept the fact and move on......

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Of course, I'm so jealous of a cheater :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ice87s

I jz want to say "don't jealous of him" As you guys were not lucky enough to have 2 accounts on the same server :D

Accept the fact and move on......

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It's easy to get 2 accounts on the same server and in the same league, just create 2 facebook accounts as 'friends' and sign them both into top 11 within 10 minutes and they will be in the same league.

Who needs to cheat anyways? when you can buy scouts and power train?

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

It's easy to get 2 accounts on the same server and in the same league, just create 2 facebook accounts as 'friends' and sign them both into top 11 within 10 minutes and they will be in the same league.

Who needs to cheat anyways? when you can buy scouts and power train?

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Hi July,

I don't think so. If you were correct, I would have more than 10 accounts in the same league....

Me and my brother created account at the same time but we are in different server where cup competition is less competitive..

And I don't think people will create 2 or 3 account within 10 min, neither did I...

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Originally Posted by ice87s

I jz want to say "don't jealous of him" As you guys were not lucky enough to have 2 accounts on the same server :D

Accept the fact and move on......

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To be jealous! you need to like someone or something, think you need to rethink that one.

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Originally Posted by Accyrover

To be jealous! you need to like someone or something, think you need to rethink that one.

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aha..

u r the one need to re-think... i think u uses to blow your chance whenever u have it in your life, pity....

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Originally Posted by ice87s

aha..

u r the one need to re-think... i think u uses to blow your chance whenever u have it in your life, pity....

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What like retiring at 48 with a string of properties to my name in more than one country, all of my own doing, not owing a penny. Next!

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Originally Posted by Accyrover

What like retiring at 48 with a string of properties to my name in more than one country, all of my own doing, not owing a penny. Next!

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aww..

No wonder u have plenty of time to make arguments at here, old man....

This is getting interesting...

I love the way these guys are living this game. :D

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Originally Posted by Csaszar Alexandru

I love the way thes sguys are living this game. :D

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Some people just like to do things well instead of skimming the surface level and being mediocre. Wether its a game or anything else It doesn't mean they "live the game". I for one appreciate the guides and tips these guys have worked out for the rest of our benefit.

Also Ice87's why don't you start your very own league where you own all the teams then you can win every season what a great feeling that will be for you :)

Back on topic > Real sports fans and the best players don't need to cheat end of story. If Nordeus do anything about this or not its not important and fair enough I'm sure they have enough on their plate.

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Originally Posted by FC Sanguis

Also Ice87's why don't you start your very own league where you own all the teams then you can win every season what a great feeling that will be for you :)

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I agree with this totally, "How to make the game pointless" It would turn out to be, Also we could do without the arguments here in this thread or we will have to close this off again.

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Originally Posted by FC Sanguis

Some people just like to do things well instead of skimming the surface level and being mediocre. Wether its a game or anything else It doesn't mean they "live the game". I for one appreciate the guides and tips these guys have worked out for the rest of our benefit.

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I'm talking about the guys who cheat, don't get me wrong i like to do things well. :)

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Originally Posted by ice87s

aww..

No wonder u have plenty of time to make arguments at here, old man....

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No arguments here, arguments are the root of differing opinions, your a cheat, you know it I now it; everyone else on the forum knows it, it's called indisputable fact.
The rest is a repose to your attempts to belittle others on here and the sheer guile you openly boast of in it's worst form.

well,

Fristly, how many of u guys saw that i'm cheating?

Secondly, i believe most of user in this forum have more than one account and they opened it for their own purpose. T11 doesnt limit the number of account you can open. In fact, Nordeus proud to have 5m users....

Thirdly, what is the chance of to be in the same league. Dont say stupid like open new accounts and fill the league with your sub-accounts.. if any of you can do it, i will give u my throat N let u cut it....

i'm here jz trying to give my opinion that there is nth wrong with this guy or anyone who own more than 1 account in T11. All i can say is he took his chance..

What do u guys expect Nordeus to do? Ban this user? well, then they have to ban at least a million of users...
The best they can do is to separate them.

so, why r u guys act like "dog see the beef steak" ????? I really wonder...

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

I agree with this totally, "How to make the game pointless" It would turn out to be, Also we could do without the arguments here in this thread or we will have to close this off again.

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If i m not wrong, u also have 2 other accounts which u r using them to do testing and gifting, right?

The only different is they are at low level season not in the same league with u.

So my question what will u do if those accounts were in the same league with u even though your main purpose it to do testing??

Think about it widely.....

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Originally Posted by FC Sanguis

Also Ice87's why don't you start your very own league where you own all the teams then you can win every season what a great feeling that will be for you .

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Plz dont say none-sense at here.

I aldy told, if you can do it, u can cut my throat...

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Originally Posted by ice87s

If i m not wrong, u also have 2 other accounts which u r using them to do testing and gifting, right?

The only different is they are at low level season not in the same league with u.

So my question what will u do if those accounts were in the same league with u even though your main purpose it to do testing??

Think about it widely.....

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They are both L2 on different server to my main account, I don't even use them for gifting and I just let them run on auto-pilot, I have another account at L4 on auto-pilot too playing on a minimal token budget every season to see how far and what I can win with it. they can not manipulate results by possession bonus etc, I wouldn't want or have another account running alongside my main account at L15 anyways, not that I need 1 or 2 alt accounts to chuck games to help me win the league when I already win the league easily most seasons.

I'm seeing this argument is V.I to be discussed in the right way; not like this!

In my opinion: I see there is no need to play with more than one team in T11 .. so it's not acceptable to have have more than one team in the same level and server or it regarded as a cheat .

I'm currently experiencing something like this : I'm facing in CL a guy who have 2 full scouted teams and the both teams are in the same league... so in this situation 2 teams in the same L, CL and the same server wtf .

I think in some cases it's not acceptable to neglect it ... and the ather cases we can accept it if the teams are in different server and level (but also must see if there is a cheats between the teams for the same guy or not; like sending gifts ... etc..)

come on.. i don't see anything wrong with multiple accounts for testing and sending gifts.. however it is if you have more than one team in the same competition. but the problem is not the bonus possession. what can +2% bonus possession do to affect your match result? it's too unimportant (unless of course if you have more teams to give you maximum possession bonus but how much time he will spend for useless thing like that? sooner or later he will give up on that)

but i think the real problem with multiple accounts is the bonus tokens and what you can do with it. bonus possession is nothing compared to this. imagine you have one more account in the same server and level as your main account. this means you have 35 free tokens every season, plus the opportunity of getting HUNDREDS of free tokens by sponsor offers. this will double your performance and financial power in the game. you can transfer the best player in your support account to your main account through negotiation. if you transfer player who was a scout player in the previous season, you will spend 50 - 8 = 42 tokens less. it is the same as a "free" scout player every season. not to mention that support accounts can give you free emblem and jersey to make you look tougher in the market. you can even invest little by little on your support account until it's able to send you official jerseys and emblems. that way nobody wants to fight you in the market and your player will get higher probability of being sold in bidding wars.

imagine if you have more than one accounts.. bonus possession is nothing. you can counter that if you want to. but hundreds of free tokens? what can you do?

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Originally Posted by July Fourth

They are both L2 on different server to my main account, I don't even use them for gifting and I just let them run on auto-pilot, I have another account at L4 on auto-pilot too playing on a minimal token budget every season to see how far and what I can win with it. they can not manipulate results by possession bonus etc, I wouldn't want or have another account running alongside my main account at L15 anyways, not that I need 1 or 2 alt accounts to chuck games to help me win the league when I already win the league easily most seasons.

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Yeah, what I wanted to say is you have 2 other accounts even though they are not in the same league with u but you still have multiple account, right?

So, there is nothing wrong to have multiple accounts. In the same league with main account or not, it is up to server, the server allocated it.

In short, if you were lucky, one of those multiple accounts will be in the same league with you.

If the person is lucky enough to have more than one account in the same league, you guys dont have right to blame him or call him a cheater, coz the server set it, not him. Whether manipulate result or not, it is up to him.

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Originally Posted by Joshiko

come on.. i don't see anything wrong with multiple accounts for testing and sending gifts.. however it is if you have more than one team in the same competition. but the problem is not the bonus possession. what can +2% bonus possession do to affect your match result? it's too unimportant (unless of course if you have more teams to give you maximum possession bonus but how much time he will spend for useless thing like that? sooner or later he will give up on that)

but i think the real problem with multiple accounts is the bonus tokens and what you can do with it. bonus possession is nothing compared to this. imagine you have one more account in the same server and level as your main account. this means you have 35 free tokens every season, plus the opportunity of getting HUNDREDS of free tokens by sponsor offers. this will double your performance and financial power in the game. you can transfer the best player in your support account to your main account through negotiation. if you transfer player who was a scout player in the previous season, you will spend 50 - 8 = 42 tokens less. it is the same as a "free" scout player every season. not to mention that support accounts can give you free emblem and jersey to make you look tougher in the market. you can even invest little by little on your support account until it's able to send you official jerseys and emblems. that way nobody wants to fight you in the market and your player will get higher probability of being sold in bidding wars.

imagine if you have more than one accounts.. bonus possession is nothing. you can counter that if you want to. but hundreds of free tokens? what can you do?

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These are possible reasons of opening multiple account.

Because of these multiple accounts, Nordeus hit 5m likes.

Different ppl have different reasons, do you(ppl who complaining) have right to blame or judge it?

To have more than one account in itself is not cheating. To use those accounts to gain an unfair advantage or to throw games obviously is.

Its also not about being lucky or taking your chance. If you follow that logic then stealing money from a blind beggars cup is just seizing your opportunity right. Or even better bring a knife to a fistfight, in fact why not a tank!
Just because its easy and you can does not make it a good or worthy thing to do. Perhaps you need to look up the word *honor* in the dictionary as you seem to lack any. The weak of mind always take the easy way.

And we do have the right to judge it because we have to compete against these people. All games and sports are about testing yourself against your opponent to find out how good you are. The only way to do that is if everyone follows the same rules.

Now i know this is just a silly football manager game don't get me wrong I just really hate cheats. Its not so much about this game but the principal we are discussing. I can't understand how you can enjoy "winning" anything or have a real sense of achievement unless you do it fairly.

I would say though that for some people in certain regions who don't get many token offers or videos etc that having another account to try and gain a few more so they can be on a level with those of us lucky enough to get them. I can understand that because unlike you i don't want or need any unfair advantages over my opponents.

Also Csaszar apologies if I misunderstood you in any way. :)

well, can you find the word "honor" in this world? If you were honest in doing business, u will be starve on the street.

After spending over thousand usd on my account, do u think that i need it?

Follow the same rule? what are the rules? did Nordeus set it? If so, plz show me.

Thank

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Originally Posted by ice87s

well, can you find the word "honor" in this world? If you were honest in doing business, u will be starve on the street.

After spending over thousand usd on my account, do u think that i need it?

Follow the same rule? what are the rules? did Nordeus set it? If so, plz show me.

Thank

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I run an honest business, I'm not starving. We have a difference of opinion good luck.

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Originally Posted by ice87s

well, can you find the word "honor" in this world? If you were honest in doing business, u will be starve on the street.

After spending over thousand usd on my account, do u think that i need it?

Follow the same rule? what are the rules? did Nordeus set it? If so, plz show me.

Thank

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Facebook set the rules and that is how you made the multiple accounts. And you wonder why you got your other 2 accounts banned/separated/whatever?

If you weren't honest in doing business in the real world, you'll get your ass kicked by the authorities. Have you no guilty conscience? If I got caught cheating an in exam because I was "lucky to be in the same room as my friend so I took advantage", that's no valid excuse.

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Originally Posted by FC Sanguis

I run an honest business, I'm not starving. We have a difference of opinion good luck.

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Oh yes? who know?

How about my second point and third point?

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Originally Posted by dv8r

Facebook set the rules and that is how you made the multiple accounts. And you wonder why you got your other 2 accounts banned/separated/whatever?

If you weren't honest in doing business in the real world, you'll get your ass kicked by the authorities. Have you no guilty conscience? If I got caught cheating an in exam because I was "lucky to be in the same room as my friend so I took advantage", that's no valid excuse.

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Well, I nvr wonder I could get banned/separate or whatever?

In every business, why do they take at least 100% profit then? If they were honest, they should sell at purchase price or let the world know what is their purchase price?

I think there is no 100% honest in real world.

100% profit lol now would that be gross or nett profit you refer to, maybe the companies you refer to have no overheads.
Gross profit is for dummies nett profit is for business men and very few if any make 100% unless they are operating in some illegal form.
Drug dealers and such like a perfect example but more like 1000% nett profit.

Facebook last year blocked 16 of my alt accounts, possibly due to the fact they were all linked and had the surname 'Haha' on every account.

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Originally Posted by Accyrover

100% profit lol now would that be gross or nett profit you refer to, maybe the companies you refer to have no overheads.
Gross profit is for dummies nett profit is for business men and very few if any make 100% unless they are operating in some illegal form.
Drug dealers and such like a perfect example but more like 1000% nett profit.

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Come on man, what is the cost of iphone 5? what is the cost of laptop? How much do ppl pay for these?

I'm exporting supplementary such as multi Vitamin into Singapore. My purchase price is 0.8-1.2$, do you know how much i sell them at here? 50$!!!!! 50 times.... I'm not the only one selling @ this price and people still buying it.......

If I was honest man, should I sell @ 1.2$ and forgo 50$ profit???