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    I use 4-4-2 (always have)
    ok, maybe this could be the answer in your problem.
    After lv2-3 I stopped playing 4-4-2 only and I watched my opponents, their formations and if I could use a good counter formation.
    Of course this is the more balance formation but your team was too predictable using the same in every game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BabyGoth View Post
    ok. i would say the problem is your formation. if you got good opponents they check your league history, see you play always 4-4-2 and they just see that and counter you. the second thing is. i don't know how match-making works. maybe you had a good season so you get good opponents this seasons. last thing i could imagine. you bought strong players but slow trainers. you enemy bought weaker players that improved well and so they came out strong late in season so you lose now.
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    ok, maybe this could be the answer in your problem.
    After lv2-3 I stopped playing 4-4-2 only and I watched my opponents, their formations and if I could use a good counter formation.
    Of course this is the more balance formation but your team was too predictable using the same in every game.
    Could you briefly advise the general counter formation for 4-4-2? I also adopted this for 16 seasons because this is easy to manage and avoid illegal formation (but now this point is meaningless). Instead of changing formation & players for different opponents, I tend to ensure the players on field are in good form & good condition and avoid them playing out of natural positions.

    Anyway, as dave1311's team is good for many seasons and my teams are not bad, I still believe teams playing with 4-4-2 can be competitive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    Could you briefly advise the general counter formation for 4-4-2? I also adopted this for 16 seasons because this is easy to manage and avoid illegal formation (but now this point is meaningless). Instead of changing formation & players for different opponents, I tend to ensure the players on field are in good form & good condition and avoid them playing out of natural positions.

    Anyway, as dave1311's team is good for many seasons and my teams are not bad, I still believe teams playing with 4-4-2 can be competitive.
    But u need to be more flexible..dont just stick only on 442C ...Coz many formation can counter 4-4-2 C easily especially with the teams higher quality,bro...our teams can beat the 4-4-2C very very easily...

    Some of the examples...

    My level 14.. Dangbros United:




    Or my Level 13: Tuan DM FC


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Dang View Post
    But u need to be more flexible..dont just stick only on 442C ...Coz many formation can counter 4-4-2 C easily especially with the teams higher quality,bro...our teams can beat the 4-4-2C very very easily...

    Some of the examples...

    My level 14.. Dangbros United:




    Or my Level 13: Tuan DM FC


    My 4-4-2 is not too rigid. In general, I will make some in-match changes if I found the opponent is vulnerable in some positions. Well, usually I will be more attractive in wing position if the opponent is weak there. But I seldom attack through the middle because I usually do not intentionally employ AMC (though my L16 have 2 at this moment).

    In this season, I often face the formation that you showed above. But the opponents are usually weaker than my teams. Actually, I consider this formation is weak in wings. So I usually move one of the AR/ML to AR/AML. Sometimes I even set to attack on both flanks. For defense, I think my 4 defenders is generally sufficient in most cases. Anyway, I monitor the statistics. If the opponent control the match and have more shots, I may try to substitute a midfielder/striker with DMC or even an extra DC.

    I don't pay too much attention on counter formation before because I think any counter formation which is considered favorable against mine has their vulnerable area. I start with 4-4-2 because it is balance. In fact, my team is usually conservative, defensive minded. It will be slowly turned to more attractive only if I found it clearly control the match, or it really need more goals.

    Anyway, thanks for your advice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cookizzz View Post
    Could you briefly advise the general counter formation for 4-4-2? I also adopted this for 16 seasons because this is easy to manage and avoid illegal formation (but now this point is meaningless). e.
    Draw an "X" in the middle of the DC/DMC/MC formation. An AMC with very good shooting is a valuable commodity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jult52 View Post
    Draw an "X" in the middle of the DC/DMC/MC formation. An AMC with very good shooting is a valuable commodity.
    I agree that my team has concern on AMC of the opponent. If the opponent is clearly stronger than my team, sometimes I will use a DMC to replace one of my MC and set the tactic to hard defense. But in general, I start with 4-4-2. If the AMC is really very active, I may firstly set one of the MC backward, and next consider to add a DMC.

    Thanks.