Fun with OOP (out of position)

[Amane Ito]

So you intentionally use illegal formation to make sure that your possession is lower than your opponent, and play defensive counter?
Sounds like a great way to exploit the flawed game engine

It can be tactically countered very badly, but very few people know how so... yeah.

[spornybol]

after a 4-0 win with yet another strange formation i`m now 9 games unbeaten and won my last 6 games can i win the league this way ?? and i leaders last game of the season

[Steppenwolf]

Hey , no surprise for me

but as Cat said I tried him as AML, he was a little better, with two 7, but not good enough. My wingers score a lot and this guy surely has a scoring problem.
So, either I 'll set him in nego list, to get some T or I 'll wait to see maybe next season if something will change.
I have read a couple of member posts that saying next year their players improved a lot.

I was patient with this guy... In first 2 seasons he scored only 8 goals in 40 games... Since the he scored 67 goals in 96 games...

[Buffs Mad]

Really ? Maybe I have some last hope for this player ?
I bought him (top price nordgen) first day, train him, give him sp, bench him, give him sa "one-to-one", NOTHING
1 goal in 10 games. All my defenders have more goals than him. Should I put him oop ?
Maybe a DC ... he is tall enough.

On the topic of SAs, its not rocket science. Give SAs to players for things they are often doing to improve the outcome.

If a guy is not getting into 1on1 positions then 1on1 Striker won't work.

Golden Rule is an SA is supposed to trigger a beneficial effect when the event that gets the benefit occurs.

Add SS to a guy that shoots; add AD to a guy that heads, add 1on1 ST to a guy that gets in 1on1 positions OR a guy playing in a system that produces 1on1 situations etc etc

An SA is not a magic potion or a straw to be clutched at.

[nikolgiorgos]

On the topic of SAs, its not rocket science. Give SAs to players for things they are often doing to improve the outcome.

Well that’s a theory, possibly the right one but not sure cause the comment we have from devs is
“Whenever a specialized player has the opportunity to use his ability, he’ll perform exceedingly well thanks to his focused training.”
What Are Special Abilities? - Top Eleven be a Football Manager

Anyway, I just want a trigger to change the “bad” program (out of form) of this player.
So things I could do and tried was :
To train him and give him sp
To change the balance of his abilities (Attack/Defense/M&P)
To bench him for a few days and use him again
To give him a special ability
To put him in some easy or friendly games
To put him playing oop - to be on topic
The only thing that remains I believe, is to wait for the next season to try him again and after that to sell him
Too bad, he is my first nordgen that was such a failure

But if I ‘ll see him playing superb in his next team …

[Buffs Mad]

Well that’s a theory, possibly the right one but not sure cause the comment we have from devs is
“Whenever a specialized player has the opportunity to use his ability, he’ll perform exceedingly well thanks to his focused training.”
What Are Special Abilities? - Top Eleven be a Football Manager

I understand what you mean, but its not a theory The bit you quoted is probably intended to mean the same as I said but its a poor translation - poor wording from Nordeus can sometimes confuse the meaning in Nordeus statements just like in their many statements on arrows .

There was a better explanation in the last Ask the Devs stuff. There was also a titbit in it regarding how much difference it made.

Just apply the more simple scenario with FK SA to the others i.e. FK SA is triggered when a FK is taken.

Training an SA on a player is not necessarily wrong and it could've worked but I wanted to confirm the situation on when it applied so that the best choice can be made with a greater chance of success. #targettedtraining

Oop can ofc be good to find a role that a player can succeed at rather than bin him - saved me a few T in OMA a couple of seasons ago to get a failed MC playing well at DMC and a low Q 'off the boil' ST as AMR but sometimes there needs to be an acceptance that a player is a dud or if he was once good then that he's been broken.