Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 11 to 19 of 19
Like Tree10Likes

Thread: young player not good

  1. #11
    VIP Gert Funck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    3,702
    Quote Originally Posted by Amane Ito View Post
    Let him play a few matchs until his form drop to 7, then he will train normally.

    I hate talking about this again and again, but a player with peaked motivation train extremely slowly. Academy spawns often comes with very high motivation which means they will likely perform very well in games until they "cooldown".
    You must accept, that there are slow trainers. This has nothing to do with motivation, which is a self invented factor. He is a free player from academy therfor as always a slow trainer period
    Last edited by Gert Funck; 03-27-2015 at 06:47 PM.
    Bluebird Hewitt likes this.
    __________________________________________________
    Groundhog Day visiting level - 58 -

    considering quitting, since nothing is improved for veterans ... nothing and pay to win has become to dominante

    FireCats is testing level - 36 -

  2. #12
    VIP
    Join Date
    Sep 2014
    Location
    Beograd
    Posts
    11,540
    Average condition down after Stretching training is 3%, but it is actually between 2-4%... When condition goes down 2%, players gain less than average skill progress and when it goes down 4%, skill gain is above average... Same is with other two types of training... 4* player who can reach 20% of skill progress with normal Stretching training is considered fast trainer (16% if he is 5*)... Those who can not reach 20% (16%) after numerous Stretching trainings are token free slow trainers...
    Gert Funck likes this.

  3. #13
    Addicted
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    Wales
    Posts
    531
    Quote Originally Posted by Gert Funck View Post
    You must accept, that there are slow trainers. This has nothing to do with motivation, which is a self invented factor. He is a free player from academy therfor as always a slow trainer period
    Agreed. I had a player who was actually pretty good (a 21yo LB at 5*) and would consistently get 7's and 8's. However, you can train him on practice match and you'd be lucky to get him in double figures (reflected by his roughly 200k price tag). I've sold him now as a result.
    Gert Funck likes this.
    Rhondda Rovers (The Rebirth) - Season 5, Level 3

    Career Progress:

    League Titles - 3
    Cup Winners - 1
    Champions League Winners - 1

  4. #14
    Dreamer
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    426
    This is the in-line citation given by the official help page.

    Young players advance very quickly while older players advance slower. All players improve much faster if they participate in matches; therefore, we recommend that you rotate your starting lineup in order to give all of your players a chance to improve.
    I'm not asking you to trust what the developers says about the game, I'm asking you to find out if this is true.

    A token or non-token youth have different base training value yes, but there are other factors that affect it, lack of pitch time is one.

    A non-token youth will surely gain more than 10% for stretching, only if he played enough matchs. Even a token youth train extremely slow if no match is played, there is definately a hidden factor present.

    A player who never played train extremely slowly, and this is a repeatable, verifiable characteristic. It is a solid prove that the above quote is true.

  5. #15
    VIP Gert Funck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    3,702
    If he playes or not he will still and always be a slow trainer
    __________________________________________________
    Groundhog Day visiting level - 58 -

    considering quitting, since nothing is improved for veterans ... nothing and pay to win has become to dominante

    FireCats is testing level - 36 -

  6. #16
    Spanish Forum Moderator khris's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2013
    Posts
    16,358
    Seell.

  7. #17
    Dreamer
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    426
    Quote Originally Posted by Gert Funck View Post
    If he playes or not he will still and always be a slow trainer
    60+ sp a season without pack usage isn't really that slow. A 2* free token youth has similar training speed as a 6* fast trainer.

  8. #18
    VIP Gert Funck's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2014
    Location
    Denmark
    Posts
    3,702
    Quote Originally Posted by Amane Ito View Post
    60+ sp a season without pack usage isn't really that slow. A 2* free token youth has similar training speed as a 6* fast trainer.
    Actually that is too slow, he should reach at least 75 points in a season, otherwise he will become more and more useless than he already is.

    Because he is a slow trainer, he will never be able to follow the team.

    In my opinion waste of team and time. Sell at first oportunity
    __________________________________________________
    Groundhog Day visiting level - 58 -

    considering quitting, since nothing is improved for veterans ... nothing and pay to win has become to dominante

    FireCats is testing level - 36 -

  9. #19
    Dreamer
    Join Date
    Nov 2014
    Posts
    426
    On the contrary, I always find non-token youth useful due to his stable high rating, he is reliable to use although he can't be used in every game, so I usually reserve him for important games.

    I just sold my non-token youth who spawned from last season for 130m and 5 tokens on negotiation. Waste? I'd say selling him too early is a waste of an opportunity and a reliable sub instead.

Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12