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Silly question, but did the training speeds change?
I just bought an 18yr old of very high price. Normally practice match would get about 50-60 for a player like this, but i trained him 3 times and did not even get 40. I have 6 stars at 20-21 that can train at this speed. So basically would cost me almost 2 greens for 1 point.
Is this the new norm, or is this guy just not as good as I think?
Every player trains different mate :D
Is he a nordgen or maybe an expensive academy player ? (did you check previous team info ?)
Sometimes when I 'm giving a 3bars practice, I get a +80, +85 but if continue I also get the higher prices like a +120, +110.
Try a new player 5-6 times.
I've noticed a decrease in training efficiency since the new patch. Probably coincide with training being faster. Plus I'm not seeing the same 80x value/wage ratios as frequently. I havent' seen a single 18yr 5* that was a 60x trainer or better.
I just know in the past i would get about 110-120 for 3 bars on a player of this star level, age, and value, and today the best i got was 80. I guess it's not just me.
80x value/wage ratios? Is this in very low level? I am sorry that I don't understand because I think value/wage of 30x is very high.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoofDaddy
For example, in L13 team, one of the players among the best in training can get 50-60 in normal practice match. His value/wage ratio is only 63.4/2.46 = about 25.8x. I hardly find 1 player close 30x for this ratio from auction market.
But I know that on level up, the value/wage ratio generally reduces. You can no longer identify fast trainer through this. For my level 21 team, the ratios for all players are dropped to below 10.
Even players are same in attribute you listed may have different training efficiency. Training results of each session may also vary. To understand more about the training pattern of a player, a training record for a period is required. I am silly that I still cannot fully understand with this on hand. But this at least helped me to identify more-likely-faster trainer.Quote:
Originally Posted by BridgeGoth
1.89m salary, 43.5m value, so 23x
I think both value/wage (very important IMO) & training gains have decreased in the Nord 'grab for cash' update.
All changes have been geared to increase the temptation to buy T's.
Just makes those of us who will not be tempted work harder.
Yeah it's low level stuff, but other than performances, youee trainers are what make you the cash at low, unless you want to hit lvl 4 and tank like everyone in my league. I have a 2* 19yr that is worth 2mil to 25k wages that I bought at the end of last season and a 4* that is currently worth 7m with 90k wages, also bought last season. These types of trainers aren't listed/created this season. Yay for instatrain, boo for players that need high trainers to offset green packing.
Oh yes. You reminded me the extreme low wage at 1st few levels. For a long time, I roughly used 30x value/wage ratio as reference for searching fast trainers. But it is true this ratio is generally decreasing on level up. For my Level 13 team, 20x player is already rare for several seasons. For my level 21 team, occasionally I still consider this ratio as a reference. But the difference among players are marginal. The severe competition in auction market also always do not allow me to think about this anymore. I will be happy to successfully acquire any player in auction market.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoofDaddy
even if he isn't top expensive nordgen - check my guide with top prices and train factorQuote:
1.89m salary, 43.5m value, so 23x
lv 11 - max q74 - max 48-50m WAGE 1,9M Factor 50M/1,9M=26
http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...-chris-18.html post #172
he should have done better than this.
I also bought two nordgens (values 39,8M & 43M) and they have done many trainings above +100
you can check here
http://forum.topeleven.com/tutorials...-chris-20.html post #198
so, something is wrong about him (and it's not new values of this season).
Are you sure he is not an academy player ? Did you check info from his previous team ?