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    Squad Rotation/Substitution run outs is it worth it?

    I have noticed if you leave players out of the squad even for one game their morale drops slightly. Then I would have to use blue packs.

    Should managers bother with rotation at all (unless there are injuries/drop in form/tiredness) ?

    I have tried to give my squad game-time as it will improve thier skill points and make substitutions where I possible to give them a "run out". Particularly against poor opposition.

    But I noticed sometimes the player substituted says he is "not about about it". Does this mean the morale of the player will be affected?

    Should I just stick to exactly the same XI instead week in week out and not make any substitutions except for injuries or tactical reasons.

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    I try out different things early in the season. I want to know which players I can count on, and which ones I can't. Once this is established, I go from there.

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    I run with two squads early in the season but as the Cup/CL games get more serious they tend to amalgamate and I find a nucleus of the squad will play most games, with one or two replacements per game from the lesser quality players...
    Any formation or tactics advice given is based purely on experience with my teams...


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    depends with me as only had 1 game a day after meeting a team that was NOT my Quality in prelims of cup but even so if was 2 even 3 comps i try and keep same 11 with 3 player`s too cover for injuries/suspensions

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    Morale : no one knows how exactly morale is working
    Maybe you can have some answers or opinions from other members (or read old ones) but I believe that only nordeus developers know the right answer and I 'm not sure about it
    Morale for me is working like an indicator - if it's dropping a lot, the player is going in a de-form period
    If it's in green/light green bar, it's ok
    If I have an important match (league, semi finals) I give extra morale boosters so everybody have perfect
    - I don't know how % can help but you know, do the right thing.
    A player with low morale (below light green bar) is vulnerable to an injury.
    Some times, morale is dropping without a reason. I had a player who's morale was "very poor" but his rates was 7-8-8-7-8 (not bad for MC ). I gave him 2 blues, he played good, scored 1 goal, got an 8 and every body was happy (this happened today).
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    From what I have observed, morale is actually linked to in-game events. A successful event increases the player's morale while a failure decreases it. The effect is instant, it happens during a game in progress. A player with high rating will therefore gain morale after a match, because the number of success is more than failure.

    The only visible effect of morale value is the possession alone, low morale lead to low possession.
    Which makes attacking mentality only useful if your team morale is high for most games.

    I did not find any solid relation between morale and player performance. A team with very low morale is perfectly capable to produce excellent results using the correct tactics.
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    I've found that blue packs are easily gained from games.

    Work out when you can't win anything for the rest of the season, or if you have hit the objective you want and let the moral sink and just save the blue packs. Also remember that 2 blues used together will fill a players moral, regardless of how bad it was before - so never used just one blue pack at a time as its not the best way to get value.

    Personally I've found blue packs quickly mount up. Ive over 1,700 of them and have never farmed any extra as I simply don't use them that often. If you can go a few weeks without using them I think you will find you will always have more than what you need.
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    But I noticed sometimes the player substituted says he is "not about about it". Does this mean the morale of the player will be affected?
    comments of the games are random. Most of them are copy from real football games but the use of some expression doesn't mean anything more than a "spicy" view of a match.
    If one player miss scoring, the game chooses between some comments like
    "it almost went in", "poor effort for ...", "it hit the crossbar" ...
    None of them means anything but the fail of our player to score.
    If a player got sub, the game pick also a random expression which doesn't mean anything than our player is out of the game.
    I had (sub) comments like
    "great game for ..." for a player who got subbed at 5' min.
    "... doesn't look pleased from his sub" (or something like this), when my player was injured
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    Quote Originally Posted by An Bainisteoir View Post
    I have noticed if you leave players out of the squad even for one game their morale drops slightly. Then I would have to use blue packs.

    Should managers bother with rotation at all (unless there are injuries/drop in form/tiredness) ?

    I have tried to give my squad game-time as it will improve thier skill points and make substitutions where I possible to give them a "run out". Particularly against poor opposition.

    But I noticed sometimes the player substituted says he is "not about about it". Does this mean the morale of the player will be affected?

    Should I just stick to exactly the same XI instead week in week out and not make any substitutions except for injuries or tactical reasons.
    Having a bench is useful for depth. If you're only playing in one competition the only depth you need be concerned with is covering injuries.

    However if you're playing in the cup and/or champions league, having a bench allows you to rest players and conserve green packs if you have a league match in close proximity to the cup/cl match.
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    I'm having a problem with morale, last 5/6 games of last season and beginning of this. On an unbeaten run in that time too. Wake up every morning to find players morale has dropped. Have only bought 2 players, so don't think I've unsettled the squad, although there on better money than the original players. Its not as though their form has dipped either, should I expect one?


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