Special Abilities For Goalkeepers And Strikers

[Tactician]

There are 2 special abilities for goalkeepers, one-on-one stopper and penalty saver, and 2 special abilities for strikers, one-on-one scorer and penalty taker.
Is a penalty not a one-on-one situation?
If yes (which I think it is), then having the one-on-one ability should cover for both situations.

[Gert Funck]

Penalties either way, is the worst SA's ever IMO

You could also ask:

Freekick => corner => penalty = Freekick kinda represents them all?

But if it is as I think D&D build dice toss scenarios the logic doesn't matter

[Tactician]

Penalties either way, is the worst SA's ever IMO

Just in case the penalty special ability does do something positive, the one-on-one ability should cover penalties as penalties are one-on-one situations. So, the special ability for penalties has even less value than the one-on one ability. The one-on-one ability can be said to be a two-in-one ability. But still, it all depends on how they programmed it.

[Staggy Stagg]

Disagree, one on one means that the striker should score when clean through on goal (doesn't always happen though). Penalty specialist has the cool, calm temperament to score from a penalty. I have found that using FK takers to take penalties means that it normally goes over the bar.

[Tactician]

But you have to be 'cool' (like Thierry Henry) to score a one-on-one or you will blaze the shot over or wide.

[Tactician]

Penalties either way, is the worst SA's ever IMO

You could also ask:

Freekick => corner => penalty = Freekick kinda represents them all?

But if it is as I think D&D build dice toss scenarios the logic doesn't matter

By definition, we can say that corners and penalties are free kicks. But, the qualities requires to take different free kicks are different. Someone good at crossing the ball can take free kicks and corners, but he can still have difficulty taking some free kicks because of the wall, the distance and the power of the shot needed and so on. A corner specialist will definitely have good crossing ability, while a free kick specialist will need good shooting ability as well.

But for a penalty, the main qualities that you need here is decision, calmness, shooting power and accuracy, which all are needed for one-on-ones. What one-on-ones need in extra is acceleration and control (which both can be put as one - dribbling) so that the player can round the goalkeeper to score if needed.

Speaking of abilities, I think that a player should not be limited to only one ability. There are so many players in real life that had more than 1. For e.g, Thierry Henry and Andrea Pirlo had 4, Lionel Messi And C. Ronaldo have at least 2, D. Beckham and Ryan Giggs had 2.

[talisman]

Disagree, one on one means that the striker should score when clean through on goal (doesn't always happen though). Penalty specialist has the cool, calm temperament to score from a penalty. I have found that using FK takers to take penalties means that it normally goes over the bar.

I don't have a specialist penalty taker in my squad, so use my main FK taker. He has a 66.6...% success rate (4 scores, 2 saved by keeper).

[HoofDaddy]

I believe it gives a bonus to the finishing stat

[Alexandre Labrecque]

Kind of see where you are going but not exactly.

Think of it like this in terms of Premier League players and the situations in question.

Leighton Baines is one of the most successful penalty takers there is. But he is a LB and is nowhere near the first guy you would want on a breakaway from from the defense running right toward the keeper.

Where as Sergio Aguero is a great example of someone you would definitely want in that breakaway scenario.

Yes they are both just the outfield player and the keeper but there is a big difference between the skills used by Eden Hazard on penalties where it is all about reading the keeper and waiting until the absolute last second to make your strike so you can get the keeper to blink first, give away the direction of his dive, and then calmly roll the ball into the opposite corner........

And making a perfectly timed run, getting on the end of a through ball, and then using pace and and skill to beat the keeper while going full speed to avoid being caught from behind.

No real comparison......


As far as this game goes the PK specialty on either end is the most useless in the game. There are simply not enough penalties called for it to matter much. I tend to keep a backup keeper of similar skill to my starter but with PK specialty just in case of the one in a million chance that I am in a cup/CL final and it goes to penalties and then I can sub him in.........My starter always has one on one stopping skill. These situations come up nearly every single match.

Same with ST, at least 1/2 starting ST's always has one on one for the same reason.

I save my FK specialty for either CAM, CM, or CDM depending on which either needs the boost the most or if I have a good player at CM or CDM which is hard to find I will give it to them to boost their stats more......In my previous team I finally found a good CM after 4 seasons and he became a monster 20+ goal per year player for me and the last season contributed over 40 G/A.

CK specialist is always given to one of my RAM/LAM because I always give my CAM either FK or Shadow Striker and it has to go to one with the better passing skills. Even better if one of the two wingers is either footed.

I find Dribbling to be the 2nd worst skill. I have found 0 benefit in any player with it.

My defenders always get either Defensive Wall or Aerial Defender. They do not need attacking SA's in order to have good ratings. They either are good enough or they are not.......These two SA's do make a difference as a good team will concede very few goals from open play. Most come from spot kicks and this helps, especially if you can get two of each IMO. Watching matches I have seen a significant rise in opp FK's hitting the wall and CK's being cleared in the air.


SA's in order of importance and position recommendation

1. FK Specialist: CAM/CM/CDM(must train them to attack), Either footed if at all possible or one LF and one RF
2. CK Specialist: LAM/RAM, again either footed or one of each
3. One V One Scorer: ST, Only skill I use for a ST
4. One V One Defender: GK, ditto
5. Defensive Wall: CB/FB, at least one on regular starting 11.
6. Aerial Defender: CB/FB, ditto, best at Jumping and Headers if only one
7. Shadow Striker: CAM or sometimes a 2nd at RAM/LAM. It boosts the otherwise low scoring at CAM well IMO
8. PK Stopper: Almost worthless, only good if you happen to get into PK shootout really and that is only in a cup/CL final.
9. Dribbler: Worthless, just takes a slot away from a better skill
10. PK Specialist: Worthless, ditto

[nash123]

Old thread... old question, but I try:

Any new experiences?

I ask, because I got a good keeper and want to give him a special ability.
I always used one on one stopper at my keepers, but they often conceeded goals in 1v1-situations (even, the ST/Scorer had no SA or something else), so I think about penalty-stopper.