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When i bought him he was 38Q and just an MC, he'd be 50Q if I didn't add SA and positions lol. He still gets high 70s on normal match training and his form has never been below a 6. Even playing teams two stars higher. I have him on negotiations but i won't accept less than 10 tokens for him, i only have 1 true ML and 1 MR in my squad and he's too useful as a multi-positional sub to let go for less.