4-5-1 V Style : Any advice?

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03-08-2013
FC Barcelona

4-5-1 V Style : Any advice?

Hi :)

Next season, i'm thinking about playing 4-5-1 V to be more close to the FCB way of playing :) therefore, if you don't mind, i'd be very grateful if you could provide me some experience feedbacks and advices about this tactic. Lately, i heard a lot of bad things about AML/AMR (useless, less powerful compared to ML/MR etc) and few tactics are really good to counter it.
Then, if you do like this tactic, did you find the right settings (orders & arrows)?

Thanks, have a nice day :)

(PS : to be more precise, I'm looking for a tactic that will save me every time to change it to counter my opponent.)
03-08-2013
Spyros

Who said mr/mrl better to have? with attacking middlefielders opponent can not apply offside trap on you. Your wingers with red arrows will turn into strikers- with blue arrows middlefielders.

Its one of the most flexible formations there are because with a few arrows you may have over 10 formation variations.

Its true it can be countered, like every other formation. Personally I get in trouble when opponents play ultra defensive like 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 flat. Butterfly formation can also counter it but for me hardest is when ultra defence is used.
03-08-2013
FC Barcelona

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyros

Who said mr/mrl better to have? with attacking middlefielders opponent can not apply offside trap on you. Your wingers with red arrows will turn into strikers- with blue arrows middlefielders.

Its one of the most flexible formations there are because with a few arrows you may have over 10 formation variations.

Its true it can be countered, like every other formation. Personally I get in trouble when opponents play ultra defensive like 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 flat. Butterfly formation can also counter it but for me hardest is when ultra defence is used.

I love that :) i saved a lot of tokens to buy an AML and an AMR next season :) do you think an AML who's also ML will more respond to arrows? :p
03-08-2013
Spyros

Try to pick players that can be placed in two positions.
Dont buy just a dc,ml,amr or dml. Always go for dc/dmc, dl/dc, ml/dml or mr/amr. Such players will save the day for you in the long run with injuries. They also give you more options.

Click on my signature and check my roster for a taste of this ;)
03-08-2013
FC Barcelona

Oh you're playing 4-1-4-1? This formation is really interesting too :)
03-08-2013
Spyros

nope i dont ^^
03-08-2013
Spyros

check my answer to adel gamal asking the same at second page ^^
03-08-2013
fmldotcom

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spyros

Who said mr/mrl better to have? with attacking middlefielders opponent can not apply offside trap on you. Your wingers with red arrows will turn into strikers- with blue arrows middlefielders.

Its one of the most flexible formations there are because with a few arrows you may have over 10 formation variations.

Its true it can be countered, like every other formation. Personally I get in trouble when opponents play ultra defensive like 5-4-1 or 4-5-1 flat. Butterfly formation can also counter it but for me hardest is when ultra defence is used.

10 formation variations? show me!
03-08-2013
shwanko07

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Originally Posted by fmldotcom

10 formation variations? show me!

add red and blue arrows on wingers and fullbacks and DMC and you will get what he means
03-08-2013
Spyros

1. dmc red arrow
2. dmc blue arrow
3. dmc red arrow & dl/dr red arrow
4. dmc red arrow & dl/dr blue arrow
5. dmc blue arrow & dl/dr red arrow
6. dmc blue arrow and dl/dr blue arrow
7. dmc red arrow & aml/amr red arrow
8. dmc red arrow & dl/dr red arrow & aml/amr red arrow
9. dmc red arrow & dl/dr blue arrow & aml/amr red arrow
10. dmc blue arrow & dl/dr red arrow & aml/amr red arrow
11. dmc blue arrow and dl/dr blue arrow & aml/amr red arrow

I dont use red arrow on st and blue arrow on amr/aml, but combination possibilities are so many already ;)
03-08-2013
fmldotcom

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Originally Posted by shwanko07

add red and blue arrows on wingers and fullbacks and DMC and you will get what he means

ok....I don't see the point adding blue arrows on fullbacks...wing sweepers? I'm just wondering about the formation and its flexibility. I'm not trying to prove no one wrong but I love the formation myself yet I tossed it. I don't feel putting red arrows on the AMC/aml/amr will turn him into a forward, i want to play Barcelona style football but failed to do so on many different formations and tactics.
03-08-2013
dv8r

Here's a trick... If you have DL/DML, DR/DMR, DC/DMC and 2 DC, you can turn 4-5-1 v to the butterfly by rotating your players around without making any subs.
03-08-2013
shwanko07

Quote:

Originally Posted by dv8r

Here's a trick... If you have DL/DML, DR/DMR, DC/DMC and 2 DC, you can turn 4-5-1 v to the butterfly by rotating your players around without making any subs.

i play my DL as DML or ML as DML .. and they still do as good
03-08-2013
dv8r

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Originally Posted by shwanko07

i play my DL as DML or ML as DML .. and they still do as good

If you have players with multiple positions, it's easier to rotate.. I know about playing players OOP, but I don't like seeing the yellow caution thingy so I just play everyone in their respective positions
03-08-2013
shwanko07

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Originally Posted by dv8r

If you have players with multiple positions, it's easier to rotate.. I know about playing players OOP, but I don't like seeing the yellow caution thingy so I just play everyone in their respective positions

i always buy DMC/DC & DL/DC & DR/DC... bcz i can move them around better .. as i often switched from 4 at back into 3 at back during matches .. if i had DL/DML, i will never be able to do that.. and tbh i use arrow instead to do same job
I think DMC/DC & DL/DC & DR/DC is just more flexible for changes during the match
03-08-2013
Spyros

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmldotcom

ok....I don't see the point adding blue arrows on fullbacks...wing sweepers?

me neither till I faced that strange scout team playing 3dc - 2 mc -2 amr/aml -3 strikers...I had low quality dmr and my dml was injured so I improvised :P

Like I said above, its veeeeery flexible formation!
03-08-2013
shwanko07

Quote:

Originally Posted by fmldotcom

ok....I don't see the point adding blue arrows on fullbacks...wing sweepers? I'm just wondering about the formation and its flexibility. I'm not trying to prove no one wrong but I love the formation myself yet I tossed it. I don't feel putting red arrows on the AMC/aml/amr will turn him into a forward, i want to play Barcelona style football but failed to do so on many different formations and tactics.

I just add add reds or not to fullbacks
and same for strikers ... i don't add red arrows