New Cup Format - Token Buyers are DISADVANTAGED

[July Fourth]

"Token Buyers will of used many tokens to vastly improve to 5-10 quality better than any other team in their level, meaning that when this new cup draw comes out they are playing against managers that are 1-2 levels higher than them and while a manager thats 2 levels higher than a token buyer they can buy a 5* player from the transfer market for a few tokens each for a player with more quality than the token buyer pays 50T for their scout players each and that means the token buyers are now at a disadvantage in the cup competitions because of this reason."

wow, that is ONE long sentence haha. I actually had a hard time understanding what you were trying to say since it seems that you bunched together quite a lot of sentences into one big one. Perhaps dividing that sentence up into smaller ones and properly explaining what it is you are thinking about, will help more ppl to understand the problem better?
I am pretty good in reading comprehension but if even I have trouble understanding you, then i am sure that the ppl at nordeus will have too since they usually misunderstand things easily

Thats probably just down to the way I type sometimes and mention things. It was basically a paragraph done in one go. I wasn't great with gramma at school.

[Morgan O'Bree]

Well for once i have to disagree. I understand the situation you feel like you've finished in, but it'a a question of balance.

An eye for an eye.

Yes, you do spend money to improve over the average rate your team, resulting in having a squad with 5,10,15 points avg better than any other team in your league (apart samre tokens buyer parties). Yes, you do get disavantaged into cup now, and only into cup. Why is it not fair? Being a non buyer and having to league, CL, and cup fight teams 10-15 Q better might look unfair to them aswell.
Keep in mind that low tokens buyers > few large buyers alwais on any game. All Nordeus did was balancing the competitions creating something where who buy tokens to be the best and be at Q X fights same qualities X.

Ofc, still this isn't much of a jack of all trades. IE, i'm facing an opponent in Cup with my same lv (3) but a team with quality 36. Yesterday it was 33,5 , today was 36,4, tomorrow will probably be 40 by that time. His striker went from 36 to 40 in 12 hours. So should i say now New Cup format sucks cause puts me to people 15 points over me? On both sides are losses. And honetsly you can probably have some real thrill apart from keeping getting 26-0-0's every season. Loss is a part of growth :P

[July Fourth]

Well for once i have to disagree. I understand the situation you feel like you've finished in, but it'a a question of balance.

An eye for an eye.

Yes, you do spend money to improve over the average rate your team, resulting in having a squad with 5,10,15 points avg better than any other team in your league (apart samre tokens buyer parties). Yes, you do get disavantaged into cup now, and only into cup. Why is it not fair? Being a non buyer and having to league, CL, and cup fight teams 10-15 Q better might look unfair to them aswell.
Keep in mind that low tokens buyers > few large buyers alwais on any game. All Nordeus did was balancing the competitions creating something where who buy tokens to be the best and be at Q X fights same qualities X.

Ofc, still this isn't much of a jack of all trades. IE, i'm facing an opponent in Cup with my same lv (3) but a team with quality 36. Yesterday it was 33,5 , today was 36,4, tomorrow will probably be 40 by that time. His striker went from 36 to 40 in 12 hours. So should i say now New Cup format sucks cause puts me to people 15 points over me? On both sides are losses. And honetsly you can probably have some real thrill apart from keeping getting 26-0-0's every season. Loss is a part of growth :P

15 seasons played, Number of seasons I have went 26-0-0 in the league in our history: 0. In our early days we werent any token buyers with claiming all our tokens from the videos and we kept getting the odd dodgy result and the game trolled me in a few CL finals before, recently being 10 quality ahead of every team in my league has still resulted in the few bad results recently but we have been unbeaten for 77 league games, last 3 seasons were 24-1-1 (lost 1st game because I left reserves in the squad from day before cup game), 25-1-0, 24-2-0.

[Morgan O'Bree]

15 seasons played, Number of seasons I have went 26-0-0 in the league in our history: 0. In our early days we werent any token buyers with claiming all our tokens from the videos and we kept getting the odd dodgy result and the game trolled me in a few CL finals before, recently being 10 quality ahead of every team in my league has still resulted in the few bad results recently but we have been unbeaten for 77 league games, last 3 seasons were 24-1-1 (lost 1st game because I left reserves in the squad from day before cup game), 25-1-0, 24-2-0.

Mainly, how many points ahead each of these season you ended up winning the league? What were the last 3 results of your finals? (quarter, semi, final)? If the answer is likely more than 10-15 points, and more than 8-10 aggreagted goals, then the new format makes you "pay" your superior quality pairing you up with higher levels :[

[July Fourth]

Mainly, how many points ahead each of these season you ended up winning the league? What were the last 3 results of your finals? (quarter, semi, final)? If the answer is likely more than 10-15 points, and more than 8-10 aggreagted goals, then the new format makes you "pay" your superior quality pairing you up with higher levels :[

Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.

[fmldotcom]

Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.

I don't get why they set up token buyers with non token buyers....like all my acc are facin higher level teams. How come I don't get to face teams lower level with same quality?

[Morgan O'Bree]

Yes, but you don't buy tokens to get better players from the scout or power train just to play teams that above you level wise on a regular basis, because we are playing L17-L18 clubs in the cup this season, It only costs them a dozen tokens to buy some players that can easily sink our team that we spent hundreds of tokens on scouts/PT etc, It doesn't make sense. Last 2 leagues I won by 25 points and the aggregate scorelines for me in semi-finals were 2 goals in my favour last season in both cup and cl semi, Cup final won 5-0, CL final won 5-1.

It's a chain reaction. Those teams who you say can easily acquire what you have to pay for will face the same issues if they plan to go for the best on their level too. They will get parried with even stronger levels and that up untill higher planes.

[fmldotcom]

Ok it's like this. I buy tokens and face teams few levels higher than me. I have all scout teams but to him, my team is all 3-4*. If he really wants, he can get a 5* team for much less tokens and destroy me because his 5* will be my 8*. so the new cup format favors high level teams, how is this fair? I can spend 2000 tokens right now and it's still impossible to get a squad full of 8*. why can't I face a team lower level with same quality? the situation is that you can upgrade your team all season long, so there's no advantage of being token buyer at all. They should input transfer deadline too then, then I wouldn't complain.

[July Fourth]

Ok it's like this. I buy tokens and face teams few levels higher than me. I have all scout teams but to him, my team is all 3-4*. If he really wants, he can get a 5* team for much less tokens and destroy me because his 5* will be my 8*. so the new cup format favors high level teams, how is this fair? I can spend 2000 tokens right now and it's still impossible to get a squad full of 8*. why can't I face a team lower level with same quality? the situation is that you can upgrade your team all season long, so there's no advantage of being token buyer at all. They should input transfer deadline too then, then I wouldn't complain.

It cost me 3,200 tokens to get 8 players power trained to mid-tiered 8* players in L13, so It would cost you around 4,500 tokens to get the quality of your first XI all the way upto mid-tiered 8* players.

And the following season, the system will handicap you again and put you in a MORE difficult cup because you would have all those amazing players at your level.

[fmldotcom]

It cost me 3,200 tokens to get 8 players power trained to mid-tiered 8* players in L13, so It would cost you around 4,500 tokens to get the quality of your first XI all the way upto mid-tiered 8* players.

And the following season, the system will handicap you again and put you in a MORE difficult cup because you would have all those amazing players at your level.

yah, but why all my teams are the lowest levels? I only invested in 1 team, the other 2 are not, yet I always face higher level. Why don't I get to face like a version of you lower. It seems like its not matching quality to quality, its matching token buyers to non token buyers. The end of this season i'm going to buy two or three 1* players and leave them there if I have room to lower quality and if I still get the same situation then its obvious - tokens vs no tokens.