Season 78 - Are you ready?

[Tactician]

Agreed wholeheartedly - how else can you explain a team that won 4-0 in the home leg conceding 3 goals in the last 17 minutes of the 2nd Leg, having resisted all efforts up to then - so the opponent can win after extra time and penalties of course...

http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...tml#post400642

Ah... you noticed that too. Same thing happen to me last year (2015). I won the away leg 2-1, but the game appeared to setting things up in the home game. It went to extra time and I lost on penalties. During that match, that is before going to penalty shoot-outs, my best player, a player who never missed a penalty, missed one. Everything was happening but the decisive goal to get my team qualified simply 'did not want to come'. And you know what, at that time, I was using 4-5-1(V); don't come and tell me it easy to score 2 goals past a superior team playing a defensive 4-5-1(V) in his stadium.

In some cases, the opposing team might even get one or a few red cards, but still you won't get to win this match or get a good enough result to go to the next stage. It is as if the game is trying to fool you.

There is something else I have observed. In some cases, where you have won the first leg by large margins or whatappeared to be a great result, in the second leg it is as if something has changed significantly; the other team start scoring for fun against you despite being inferior, playing away and kept the same formations and tactics as in the previous leg, while your players does not seem to want to play or they are playing but all efforts go in vain.

[talisman]

There is something else I have observed. In some cases, where you have won the first leg by large margins or whatappeared to be a great result, in the second leg it is as if something has changed significantly; the other team start scoring for fun against you despite being inferior, playing away and kept the same formations and tactics as in the previous leg, while your players does not seem to want to play or they are playing but all efforts go in vain.

That's what I call the '2nd Leg kick in the teeth'. The squad grafts away and gets a 1-0 win in the away 1st Leg, then apparently forgets how to play in the home 2nd Leg and the opposition team deals a 0-2 defeat...

Usually the opposing team is a tad below in Quality but plays an adventurous formation that gets results, and, with home possession advantage, your team should win handily if you get the (counter-)formation and tactics correct. On match day, the opposition manager doesn't turn up and you are there with a full house and a friend and thus have full 15% possession bonus...

Are you coming around to the idea that there could be 'Troll' results in this game, and these sorts of matches we are discussing is where they start?

[Tactician]

That's what I call the '2nd Leg kick in the teeth'. The squad grafts away and gets a 1-0 win in the away 1st Leg, then apparently forgets how to play in the home 2nd Leg and the opposition team deals a 0-2 defeat...

Usually the opposing team is a tad below in Quality but plays an adventurous formation that gets results, and, with home possession advantage, your team should win handily if you get the (counter-)formation and tactics correct. On match day, the opposition manager doesn't turn up and you are there with a full house and a friend and thus have full 15% possession bonus...

Are you coming around to the idea that there could be 'Troll' results in this game, and these sorts of matches we are discussing is where they start?

I have no fans (no one is in the friend's list beside the default Mourinho team), and yet I dominate possession even in away matches. See the pictures posted earlier (1-1 draw). I dominate most of my opponents, not only in terms of possession, but in everything or almost everything in the match, and mostly obtain the required result, though at times the score can be narrow, most probably due to random effects. My games are based only on tactics and quality. It is those what appeared to be 'fixed' matches and those excessive injuries that is my concern. And, it is even more a problem when it occurs in important matches.

I know, but there are many things reported as 'troll' here that are not as such.Why? Because it can seen what tactical error(s) the user made or how the other team managed to win, based on the posted images, feedback and so on. Many users won't see this this, and even I was not seeing many of them in the early days, that is when I started to play this game, and me too I was complaining about this and that. This is understandable. Also, not everyone has tactical way of thinking or football way of thinking. But, some things that is happening in this game is in fact bad.

Quality and tactics should influence match results mainly, followed by form and other random effects (which should be minor to very minor). If other things are involved, such as those suspected, I think that this is very inappropriate. The worst are those suspected 'fixed' matches. This is bad, very bad, and not acceptable.

Take into consideration that I have been suspecting some things way back in 2015, some of which were among the reasons why I quit this game. I came back, and I found explanations for some of them. In some cases, there were manager errors or tactical errors (user is at fault). But, there are some things that appear to repeat (and you also confirmed that you experienced similar situations) where what happen does not make any football sense other than being 'fixed' matches or set up. In some cases, you can say that you can almost clearly see what the game engine is trying to do, and also how it is trying to fool the user.

[Tactician]

Nothing much can be done more. It seems that the game has decided to knock my team out, or maybe there still some important things to learn in this game. For now, I have to bow down and accept defeat.

By the way, Toplica Hoffman will be sold at the end of this season. It was a GK that I put my trust in, but he has been disappointing in those 2 matches. And guess what? The recommendations that came today were GKs. There are things that are no more a coincidence in this game. There are many things that are likely to be made to happen, set up or that are fixed.

[Tactician]

Another Injury, this time 12 days.This is getting annoying. I'm sure there is something fishy going on in this game. My team already got several injuries (6-8 days) earlier in the season which I healed using red packs - so much that only 6 red packs are left. How am I going to heal the current injuries? I have no money left in the credit card account, and no offers are available for my region.

[Arion]

It feels as if we're FBI agents.

Anyway, my CL draw DOES feel fishy — 3 teams below 60% and one team above 90% in each of the group. I even saw a 2%, and they QUALIFIED FOR THE KNOCKOUTS! Anyway, only the group winners have survived for the quarter finals.

And yes — there's been a surge in injuries. A new signing injured for 7 days (healed), a second string MC for 5(naturally recovered), and my regular starting fullbacks for 4 days each (1 was healed, other naturally). But what I do (for <5 days injury on important players) is I don't heal them the day they're injured — I do it the next day, saves on reds.

[Tactician]

It feels as if we're FBI agents.

Anyway, my CL draw DOES feel fishy — 3 teams below 60% and one team above 90% in each of the group. I even saw a 2%, and they QUALIFIED FOR THE KNOCKOUTS! Anyway, only the group winners have survived for the quarter finals.

And yes — there's been a surge in injuries. A new signing injured for 7 days (healed), a second string MC for 5(naturally recovered), and my regular starting fullbacks for 4 days each (1 was healed, other naturally). But what I do (for <5 days injury on important players) is I don't heal them the day they're injured — I do it the next day, saves on reds.

They are fishy. I suspect that it is the League and CL batches and draws that gives an indication of how your team will perform in relation to the quality that you have. If you have been put in a batch consisting of low quality teams, the percentage efficiency of your team has already been reduced (hidden, but this may not activate or be apparent immediately). It could be to compensate for the big difference. You must be careful when facing those significantly weaker teams. While you may get a lot of large wins, especially at the start, you might struggle against a weaker team in the later stages despite having much higher visual quality displayed for your team. And if you have not used the best tactics, you will be knocked-out. Sometimes, even with the best tactics, you may get knocked-out. This is where I suspect match fixing.

Take into consideration that the above have not been proved 100%, but many indications are there. Sometimes, just by looking at the batch you have been put in, you can already say how efficient your team will be in terms of quality throughout the season. What is displayed, that is what you see is not always what actually there is. A 5 star team is actually a 3 star team if it is set to 60% efficiency. This is a very significant effect.

[Tactician]

By the way talisman, there are indications that 4-3N-2W-1 has been underpowered this season. I have tested it once only though, but so far, it seems to be weaker than expected. You may concede more goals than expected when using this formation. 4-2-2-2 Hexagon seems to be the reverse this season, that is overpowered and conceding less goals.

Those effects goes against the logic of football tactics though. Normally, 4-3N-2W-1 should be stronger defensively and also appear to dominate matches more as compared to 4-2-2-2 Hexagon. There is even a team using 4-2-2-2 Hexagon that has not lost in it's league (14W, 0D, 0L, 65GF, 7GA); those statistics are anomalous for a team using such a formation.

So, this adds to the fishy things going on in this game this season.

[Tactician]

Who can add me on the friend's lists and send me some packs for the next few days? My team is currently in poor condition and I have no more money in the credit card account to buy tokens to get packs. One serious user will be enough. My account is on server 34.

[Arion]

Who can add me on the friend's lists and send me some packs for the next few days? My team is currently in poor condition and I have no more money in the credit card account to buy tokens to get packs. One serious user will be enough. My account is on server 34.

So you want server friends... Anyway how do we check our server?