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    Quote Originally Posted by Moi View Post
    Hi Tactician

    As you know, we already discussed that with you some weeks ago. Again, you make some affirmations with no data to back them, rather than your own experience. While your experience in Top Eleven and many situations involving the game may be big or huge, that doesn't mean there's an evil plan to make you perform this or that other action, or a specific even to happen here and there.

    The game engine that simulates matches couldn't be more far away from a casino game. There are no prefixed outcomes or results, there are only variables being taken into account during the simulation. Again, the fact that you don't understand why something happened doesn't mean the system is rigged or has an evil plan to hurt you.

    Sorry but comparing an auction being lost with a real disease like depression is totally out of line. When you say "this game has hurt a lot of people", do you have anything to back this up? How many people you know has been hurt by Top Eleven? This is a game and you are playing against others, auction system works that way, sometimes you will win, sometimes others will, that's how it is. Like on any other games where you are playing against other real players, you can lose (auctions and matches) and there's nothing wrong with that.

    Top Eleven is enjoyed every day by milions of players around the World. If you don't have fun with it or if frustrates you, that's okay, nobody is forcing you to play, but don't pretend everybody gets depressed when they lose a match or an auction, and "you're contributing to people's suffering" by playing a game that "has hurt a lot of people", come on Tactician

    Top Eleven is a football manager game a lot of people have fun playing with, we see it every day and they tell us every day. And we keep improving it to make it better and more fun to play, collecting and taking into account users' feedback.

    As I was saying, I get it, you don't like it, it frustrates you. That's not the goal and the purpose of Top Eleven and I can undertand why you feel that way. And regarding to this, if I can do anything to help you understand why something happens in the game, you just have to ask, I will do my best.

    I've read the thread where you explain what happened to you with injuries. If you look at real football, you will see teams facing similar problems on specific seasons, and then on other seasons, these teams face almost no injuries. This season has been terrible for you regarding injuries, you had a lot, an awful amount of them -btw, we're collecting data about this too-. Let me ask: how was the last season regarding injuries? And 2 seasons ago? And 3 seasons ago? Is this something that happened to your team every season or just this season? Do you really think the game has a plot to award your players a yellow card so you won't get a treatment at the end of the match so you won't be able to heal your injuried players, as I read in that thread? That's way off the line, really.

    Even 100% fit players can get injuried in real life, just the chance is much smaller than if they were not. And any team can have 1 injury per match during 3 consecutive matches. In real life and in Top Eleven. Have you seen Madrid recently? They got Benzema injuried, then on the next match, Cristiano was injuried too. Benzemá returned in the next match, and got injuried again. Is there a plot against Madrid or it's just that injuries happen in football?
    Moi, I had played this game before (in 2015), and many things seems to repeat itself including injuries. I spoke to someone from Nordeus in 2015; it was skyqueen. She did have a look and have agreed on something.

    Sure injuries can occur in real life, but not to the extent of how it occurs in this game, and surely not in the way they occur. And this is only one concern. I highly suspect fishy things going on for the outcome of certain matches. And if ever it is due to randomness, it is not appropriate because randomness cannot have so much an effect on the outcome of a football match. But, I still think there are other things going on besides randomness though.

    For me, tactics and quality should be the major contributors to the outcomes of matches with randomness being a minor contributor. Match preparation, including the bonus is also acceptable as a major-minor contributor. If it is not like this or if ever there is something else involved in there that significantly affects the outcomes of certain matches, then this is wrong.

    About the 'hurt' feeling, I know what I'm talking about. A user who bought a lot of tokens is in a different situation than a user who obtained a lot of tokens from 'free' offers.
    Last edited by Tactician; 04-29-2016 at 05:25 AM.
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