Excessive Number Of Goals Scored

I have noticed that a lot of goals are being scored lately as compared to the past. Based on the 3D highlights (not 2D as the ball comes out of the plane), the attackers (including weaker players) get through the defense way too easily, and also most of the goals scored seem to be from one-on-one situations or close to one-on-one situations against the GK or the last defender, where the attacker cuts the ball and shoots. It is as if there is a Thierry Henry or a Lionel Messi in every team, irrespective of the quality of the team or the player. There have been way too much of one-on-one situations lately. This is not realistic.

Who noticed the same?

Yes, I have seen this too. I'm 10 points clear in the League, in the Cup semi and CL quarters with an awesome team hoping to get my first treble. Yet I still leak goals inexplicably. I rarely have a clean sheet in fact. Hence my GK often gets a 6 rating when everyone else gets 8 or 9. I'd blame my GK but the other one is the same. They both pull out a few saves during the game. So it is odd indeed.


KFC Loella. Level 30
16 League Titles
3 Champions Leagues
1 Cup

I checked some results from my CL- and Cup- opponents, and some friends... there are some freaking results:

CL first leg QF: 98% (manager + 2 friends) vs 78% (<- away, no manager, no fans) 1:2
he conceeded before only one goal at the whole CL.

CL first leg QF: 80% vs 92% 3:1 (don't know about fans/manager)

my own CL first leg QF: 98% vs 119% (me) 2:3 (Details posted here)

Cup 2nd leg QF: 124% vs 98% 1:2 (don't know about fans/manager)
The 124% conceeded NO goals and win all games (first leg 1:0) at cup... now he's out by a 98% guy, which nearly lost one leg at cup...

Cup 2nd leg QF: 102% vs 122% 1:1 (don't know about fans/manager)

Cup 2nd leg QF: 106% (manager + 1 fan) vs 78% 1:1

League last round: 98% (manager was there) vs 84% 1:1

League last round: 72% vs 103% (manager + me) 3:2


I know, "quality" is not all, but especially Cup - you don't get to QF, if you're a noob. So I'm sure, in some cases, there was a change, but what kind of it?

There seems to be a flaw that makes the event of attackers penetrating the midfield and defense to score goals occurring way to much. Defenders, especially central defenders do not seem to be able to stop them as they should, and the GK does not stop enough shots. Attackers seem to penetrate through the defense way too easily by running with the ball, even lower quality attackers versus higher quality defenders, so as to make one-on-one situations and score. This also explains why so many defenders have got poor ratings lately.

Something has gone wrong after the recent changes or updates in this game. Lower quality teams or players are scoring more goals than expected.

So far, I think that certain things involved in the calculations of match results, and hence simulation of the matches have been messed up or changed, which explains why in a sudden weaker teams have scored more goals than expected and also why more weaker teams have beaten stronger teams.

Nik posted something that might be related to this thread. You can have a look here: http://forum.topeleven.com/top-eleve...tml#post406599 .

Raise your defenders' bravery/aggression and they will make challenges sooner and more often. Risky though against short passing high dribbling stat teams.

Not conceding more, maybe scoring more against the whipping boy teams tho. Conceding 15 goals all season I can't see that it's easier to score goals (against me anyway).

155 goals for...3 goals against n the league but 96 coming from my AMR/L 155/3
Conceded 9 in the cup, but the teams are all at least 1 level above me. 29 scored. 29/9
36 goals for 1 against in champions league group, 9 for 2 against since. 45/3

Looking at last year, I already scored more goals than then by far. But this league is MUCH easier, seems like 7 abandoned teams with only really 1-2 teams even close to competing and last year there was 6-7.

Playing defensive 4-5-1 again.. didn't concede any goals yet :D
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Beck youre obscene, did you full rebuild you team at the start of the season?

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Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

Beck youre obscene, did you full rebuild you team at the start of the season?

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Yah... kinda hahaha :D i did so on day 3.

That explains it, kudos to you for having the wherewithal to successfully pull off a full rebuild. I get way too attached to my players. I just aim for having a first squad of 6* and average team Q of high 4* at the end of seasons. I can't sell good players that perform just to get better draws. Maybe in a few seasons if I still haven't won a CL.

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That explains it, kudos to you for having the wherewithal to successfully pull off a full rebuild. I get way too attached to my players. I just aim for having a first squad of 6* and average team Q of high 4* at the end of seasons. I can't sell good players that perform just to get better draws. Maybe in a few seasons if I still haven't won a CL.

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Keep going, play the way you were meant to and don't manipulate the system. Spoils the fun for everyone you get in that "easy draw" with - for sure your wins mean jack if you had to manipulate the draw to play weaker teams to get them too.

I have been keeping academy players on the roster to lower my quality but I've never sold my whole team day 26. I don't look down on people that do it but I prefer maintaining a narrative and watching progression and growth season to season.

The goals have been drying up for me... Just today in the CL I got into a 1v1 situation and the GK saved it. Utter crap. Thus we're out on 0-2 agg😞

watching a game of Tactician ...
he must be angry now ...
LOL

VERY ANGRY :mad:

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

VERY ANGRY :mad:

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So, you saw what happened. Something is wrong with this game.

it was close :p :p :p

http://i68.tinypic.com/2z9b881.jpg

I watched some part of that game with my "2nd" team .
Well, in a big part of the game, you played with 3DC which is not enough to counter 4-4-2.
It seems that his MR took advantage of that.
But of course playing with 10 players and scoring 3 times, it's not very realistic.
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* oppo manager watching the game (at least in the beginning) that's why there wasn't any sub.
Happened to my sometimes too. Started watching the game but I had to do something and if had an injury, didn't go for auto-sub.
Does anybody know if with the new version if leave the game (close the app), auto-subs are activate again ?

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

I watched some part of that game with my "2nd" team .
Well, in a big part of the game, you played with 3DC which is not enough to counter 4-4-2.
It seems that his MR took advantage of that.
But of course playing with 10 players and scoring 3 times, it's not very realistic.
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* oppo manager watching the game (at least in the beginning) that's why there wasn't any sub.
Happened to my sometimes too. Started watching the game but I had to do something and if had an injury, didn't didn't go for auto-sub.
Does anybody know if with the new version if leave the game (close the app), auto-subs are activate again ?

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The other manager came late in the game. Auto-sub did not work.

3DC is enough. 3DC can even be used against 2ST and 2 wingers (for example, in the case of facing a 4-4-2 hexagon). It is not only 3DC. There are two lines of defense: 3DC + 4M. This is how it works in football, and it works like this in this game too. This may not be evident to you because you use another approach when setting formations to be used as counters; your approach is for defensive and counter-attacking which required a lot of players at the back, while I use different types of approaches, using styles that you have not learned, tested or convinced of. I have tested this set of tactics that I have used a lot of times against 4-4-2, and it never failed as such before in this game. I never lost or drawn against a 4-4-2 with this set of tactics before this particular match. In this one, the 3DC and the 4M all act as defenders; there are 2 lines of defense. I marked the MR (he was even doubly marked; the left-sided DC and the ML can mark him). The MR got a high rating because of his assist from corner. What happened here is another anomaly.

Before that 'crazy' period, all clean sheets. So, you see something has changed lately in this game.

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The other manager came late in the game.

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no, he didn't' come late or else there would be an auto-sub.
maybe you couldn't see him (happening sometimes)

sry but you lost this one before the match started. 442 beats ND 8times out of ten

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

it was close :p :p :p

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Close like you say, but this might be occur later on and cost my team the competition. The 2-0 loss also may be the same thing. This might cost my team the league as the other team full of scouts' and recommended players is only 1 point behind now. So, I need to report this now. I hope that other users that are experiencing the same thing report too.

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Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

sry but you lost this one before the match started. 442 beats ND 8times out of ten

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I did not use N.D for the most part of the match. I changed to N.D later in the match when the score was already 3-1 against my team.

Nik has mentioned 3DC above; so, there was another formation involved - the formation that I used from the start until I changed to N.D.

whoops, jumping to conclusions

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The tactics that I used in the above matches are very likely to be appropriate ones. I have used and tested those tactics before. There is definitely something wrong with this game.

sell/switch your gk

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whoops, jumping to conclusions

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No problem, but see those screenshots, and tell me yourself if it is normal. I used all known counter tactics in those matches (except the adjustments that I made during the match after the game started to go 'crazy').

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Originally Posted by HoofDaddy

sell/switch your gk

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Both GKs are good. The same for the defenders. See the screenshot of the fixture list shown above. All clean sheets. This 'crazy' thing only started on Wednesday 18/05/2016.

not much you can do then except ride it out. use this time to experiment and try unconventional strategies.

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not much you can do then except ride it out. use this time to experiment and try unconventional strategies.

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It is not appropriate to do experimentations at this time. There is a team full of scouts' and recommended players 1 point behind my team in the league; I was 4 points clear but this 'crazy thing' made my team lose 3 points on 18/05/16. Also, I still have to play the away match against that team. There are also 2 semi finals (4 matches) to be played. This 'crazy thing' can ruin all the effort that I have put in this season.

I don't even have enough money in the credit card account. Else, I would have bought a scout list defender and maybe another player to try save the hard work I have put in this season (in case something has gone wrong with some of the defenders in this team due to the recent changes made to the game). I have put in a lot of effort to win all those matches in this season. The treble is so near, and see what is happening. This is not acceptable.

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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

watching a game of Tactician ...
he must be angry now ...
LOL

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I wish i could watch a game of Tactician...😀

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sry but you lost this one before the match started. 442 beats ND 8times out of ten

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Sorry, but "in my world" that's not true. My wife mostly plays ND. She has a 100% winstreak vs 4-4-2 with ND, won two cupfinals vs stronger 4-4-2.

This season, I also won a hard game with ND vs 4-4-2.

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Both GKs are good. The same for the defenders. See the screenshot of the fixture list shown above. All clean sheets. This 'crazy' thing only started on Wednesday 18/05/2016.

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I can't say, if it started on 18th too, because it was a 6:1 win - but it was first conceeded goal (at League) after seven clean sheets (at league).

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Sorry, but "in my world" that's not true. My wife mostly plays ND. She has a 100% winstreak vs 4-4-2 with ND, won two cupfinals vs stronger 4-4-2.

This season, I also won a hard game with ND vs 4-4-2.



I can't say, if it started on 18th too, because it was a 6:1 win - but it was first conceeded goal (at League) after seven clean sheets (at league).

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It was the first conceded goal for me too after quit some time (1-1 draw). Then, my team unexpectedly lost the next match just after this one. And two matches later it became evident that something was wrong. See the fixtures' list I have posted before in thread. There are two images.

it really isn't you need veryspecific orders for it to work, but when it does your wingers are unbeatable.

the clean sheet or not... I depend on the GK.... if my GK perform well... i mostly get a clean sheet.... but if 7 on target, and only 1 save .... LOL there should be some goal for the opposite team...

i just notice that at the beginning of the season (the first 4 to 5 matches), it was very hard to score and easily to lose a goal....and that will happened again in the middle season....

well... but i don't lose so many goal in league~ usually one goal..... i only lose more than one goal in my last round of the CUP where i face higher LV and strong team

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