What kind of ridiculous opponents we face in Associations?

[Moi]

What I don't get is how on earth are these association managers who are on say manager level/club level 3 or 5 or 7 or whatever have the same or higher Ave quality than us than are over level 20? I I mean even if he had a stash of tokens and personal trained to 9* it would not be near the players avaliable at our levels so I can only say it all seems very fishy

They are not. In Associations only the stars of your players (and your rivals' players) are taken into account. Otherwise you could only play together and against other players with your same exact level.

Here is an example:

User A is Level 10, has all his players with 5 stars
User B is Level 20, has all his players with 5 stars

Of course the real quality of their players is very different, the players from the Level 20 user are much more powerful in absolute terms. BUT in Associations, players from user A and user B would have all 5 stars. That makes Associations the perfect place to team with other Managers who have many different levels, which is the point of this feature: Play with your friends no matter what level are they. In Associations you always see players with the stars his Manager sees them, even if he is 15 levels ahead or below you.

[a1i]

What I don't get is how on earth are these association managers who are on say manager level/club level 3 or 5 or 7 or whatever have the same or higher Ave quality than us than are over level 20? I I mean even if he had a stash of tokens and personal trained to 9* it would not be near the players avaliable at our levels so I can only say it all seems very fishy

You see guys, that's what happens when you open up the floodgates of chat and everyone teaches simple arithmetic with unmatched patience to a guy like this who obviously has noooooo clue on how to play the game or train players.

And others claiming people spend a million tokens or whatever.

This is why all these chinese guys have become so strong. Yes, they buy tokens, but more than anything, they share knowledge on how to build teams efficiently.

Like Moi said, just because YOU don't have the time or understanding of how to power train youngsters does NOT mean that others don't.

Saddest thing about association is now everyone who was stupid and clueless for 20-30 seasons are suddenly getting 140-150-160% teams because they can't believe how they can finally do it too and end up spending truckloads of tokens to train good players.

PS. Someone else said they buy scouts and recommended players. Umm, no, maybe recommended players but mostly 18 year old, train 3rd position and an ability. This is the sort of ignorance about a game you've spent years playing that boggles the mind.

I figured everything out by the second season (level 20 now with 10 trebles and all the rest 1st places and cl), I taught my association members who some were level 35 how to power train and everyone had no clue whatsoever how to do it, nevermind how to train. Now they all have 140-150% teams with about 2000 tokens and ad watching.
Made me think what in the world were you guys doing all this time playing the game without even figuring out absolute BASICS.

Now, we, the smart guys who don't need to be nursed and babysat into every little game detail and have figured it out long ago while we saw idiots buying a team full of scouts every single season, like that is not expensive?!.... Now, we are the ones at a disadvantage, we have guys who just learned how to max a team out and they've multiplied scarily. And I learn that on top of everything they limit the ad watching limit to 35 from 100 so people who aren't in the states like many of us are, have some "fairness".

Where's the fairness in any of this? Nowhere! Now that everyone is a super duper team, and association games are super buggy and laggy they've ruined one of my fav games. They made it so everyone is buying tokens to FINALLY achieve what they couldn't understand how others are so powerful and called them "cheaters". Now they just laugh all the way to the token bank. The richer, the better. And we, the original guys who reigned for 20-30 seasons and more knowing what is common sense get screwed over.

This is now officially a game of who is the richest and who has the most time and luxury to spend. No longer a game of skill. The "secret" is out so to speak. Except it was no secret. Just many of you are too stupid to figure out obvious concepts.

/RANT OVER

[pcmacdaniel]

I want to thank these people spending hundreds monthly on this game, because if it wasn't for them there would be no game.

But, I hope they have an income high enough to sustain themselves and aren't burning their lives savings to win a video game competition.

[Ahlony Wong]

LOL.... and then you guys forgot to check the seats.... some LV 4,5 guys has 183000.... same as me ( LV14) build in normal time.... and remember that... he need to upgrade everything at the same time in order to have that seat.... how many token spend in there.... yeah... I really believe they are spend more than 1400€ ~ no one is cheating LOL just believe it...

[Moi]

LOL.... and then you guys forgot to check the seats.... some LV 4,5 guys has 183000.... same as me ( LV14) build in normal time.... and remember that... he need to upgrade everything at the same time in order to have that seat.... how many token spend in there.... yeah... I really believe they are spend more than 1400€ ~ no one is cheating LOL just believe it...

Oh well, if you don't believe some people is willing to pay this amounts of money, then there's nothing much I can do to explain

It's much better to deny it and keep pointing out fingers to other users without any proof, just because you can't believe others would spend that much. Like there's people who buys 10.000 $ jackets. I wouldn't do it, but they exist.

And in here you should thank these players instead of blaming them, as these users make Top Eleven "free to play" possible.

[Ahlony Wong]

Oh well, if you don't believe some people is willing to pay this amounts of money, then there's nothing much I can do to explain

It's much better to deny it and keep pointing out fingers to other users without any proof, just because you can't believe others would spend that much. Like there's people who buys 10.000 $ jackets. I wouldn't do it, but they exist.

And in here you should thank these players instead of blaming them, as these users make Top Eleven "free to play" possible.

LOL...i already say...i believe that no one is cheating

[KT Cole]

More likely to be the "Pay to win" type of player? I dread to think what his actual league is like then, if he is an actual Level 3 player. Do the others not even bother to "turn up" when they have to play a match against him

[HairDryer]

More likely to be the "Pay to win" type of player? I dread to think what his actual league is like then, if he is an actual Level 3 player. Do the others not even bother to "turn up" when they have to play a match against him

yes! and i actually post a suggestion abt League go check it out and share what you think. thk you

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

nash123, I understood that that guy is legit. Well he doesn't need to use personal trainer, maybe he just bought green packs and trained them.

[nash123]

With greenpacks that's not possible... or it's more expensive than the personal trainer.

I've an 18 y.o. perfect FT. He was 140% after 3rd day of the season. Now, he is 146%, he got 2-4 trainings a day and played every single game.
I also have a 22 y.o. ST, which wasn't a FT. He was at the beginning of the season 111%, now he is 139%. So, you see the levelprogression? Above 140% it's very very hard, that they gain enough % to rise to 160 or 180%.

Apart from that, I got a PN from Moi, and he also said, that's not possible. He also said, that he spent incredible much money.