What kind of ridiculous opponents we face in Associations?

[Arion]

This guy's a member of #TZ359P, Nordeus should investigate on this matter.
And another one in our draw, the captain of #1K3ZLC:
What's wrong? Well, look at their levels.

[HairDryer]

notice that too. most of the top 10 in 100 is at a lower level and do i have to say it again from china.

[nash123]

The problem is, that this guys are "cheater". They can't get teams like that at normal ways. I know that on my own, because I've many Fast Trainer in my team and at 140% (8*) they don't gain that much. I trained my best two guys from last season (both 19 y.o.) at the beginning of the season to 135%. They reached 140% on 4th the of the season. Now... one of them is 145%, the other one is 142%. They played ALL games and they got around 2-3 trainings per day. If you are good at math, you know, how much money they have to spend for such a team.
You can report them, but it's useless. Since the start of Associsations, you can see them in high numbers, but Nordeus does nothing against them. I also got the answer, that they are legal, they spend money,...


And by the meaning of cheating, they use(d) VPN to farm greenpacks like hell. VPN is illegal (terms of use).
There also was a post at this forum, that they use it.

[Bunzo]

Careful to call them cheats as Ive had my posts removed about the above mentioned eastern asian team

[Moi]

The problem is, that this guys are "cheater". They can't get teams like that at normal ways. I know that on my own, because I've many Fast Trainer in my team and at 140% (8*) they don't gain that much. I trained my best two guys from last season (both 19 y.o.) at the beginning of the season to 135%. They reached 140% on 4th the of the season. Now... one of them is 145%, the other one is 142%. They played ALL games and they got around 2-3 trainings per day. If you are good at math, you know, how much money they have to spend for such a team.
You can report them, but it's useless. Since the start of Associsations, you can see them in high numbers, but Nordeus does nothing against them. I also got the answer, that they are legal, they spend money,...


And by the meaning of cheating, they use(d) VPN to farm greenpacks like hell. VPN is illegal (terms of use).
There also was a post at this forum, that they use it.

I don't know how many times do I have to say that a user can't know who is a cheater or who is not. Many users make their purchases of tokens and get better teams, so it may look like as a cheater when he's not. The fact that something takes a lot of money to accomplish doesn't mean there's no one willing to pay that amount. I also mentioned that we monitor all Top Associations and removed any team not playing by the rules.

For example, the user reported first in this thread, the Chinese guy, is a payer. He has made a lot of purchases, that's how he has built this team.

If you have any proof of his cheating, please send it to me. But if you don't have it, then please stop making false statements.

And furthermore: unlike you said, we check absolutely ALL reports. The fact that you reported someone and he is still playing means he is no cheater, not that we didn't check.

[Gert Funck]

I face teams like this in my league season after season, they are not cheating, they are just burning bunches of tokens every single season start

not too hang out just ment as an example:







They buy scouts and recommended players (those who doesn't only get keepers ) and power train them to the shown levels

There are no youngsters at my level, that is why I know this

[reddeviljohn]

I don't know how many times do I have to say that a user can't know who is a cheater or who is not. Many users make their purchases of tokens and get better teams, so it may look like as a cheater when he's not. The fact that something takes a lot of money to accomplish doesn't mean there's no one willing to pay that amount. I also mentioned that we monitor all Top Associations and removed any team not playing by the rules.

For example, the user reported first in this thread, the Chinese guy, is a payer. He has made a lot of purchases, that's how he has built this team.

If you have any proof of his cheating, please send it to me. But if you don't have it, then please stop making false statements.

And furthermore: unlike you said, we check absolutely ALL reports. The fact that you reported someone and he is still playing means he is no cheater, not that we didn't check.

Then how are these Chinese managers from association at level 5 and have the same quality as us at level 22 it is impossible as u cannot buy players above your level?

[Moi]

Then how are these Chinese managers from association at level 5 and have the same quality as us at level 22 it is impossible as u cannot buy players above your level?

First of all, he doesn't have players with the same quality as level 22:



You see it with 9 stars because you're checking his team from Associations, and in Associations only stars matters, not real quality. He has 9 star players, so in Associations you see them with 9 star players, not his real quality (which is "50" as you can see) even if he is 15-20 levels below you.

It's very easy to get 9 star players if you use the personal trainer. Of course it's going to cost you some tokens, but if you buy the best scout in the list (or the best recommended player offered to you) he will be already almost 7 stars. Going from 7 to 9 will cost you tokens but not as much as you imagine.

As I was saying, anyone has any proof for his accusations against this guy or can you accept you are dealing with a Manager who buys tokens?

[HoofDaddy]

I've had mostly favourable matchups, just won semi final of an even matchup with Peter and Alessio.

6-3-1 so far with them

[reddeviljohn]

First of all, he doesn't have players with the same quality as level 22:



You see it with 9 stars because you're checking his team from Associations, and in Associations only stars matters, not real quality. He has 9 star players, so in Associations you see them with 9 star players, not his real quality (which is "50" as you can see) even if he is 15-20 levels below you.

It's very easy to get 9 star players if you use the personal trainer. Of course it's going to cost you some tokens, but if you buy the best scout in the list (or the best recommended player offered to you) he will be already almost 7 stars. Going from 7 to 9 will cost you tokens but not as much as you imagine.

As I was saying, anyone has any proof for his accusations against this guy or can you accept you are dealing with a Manager who buys tokens?

Words fail me but u know what I am done with you