What kind of ridiculous opponents we face in Associations?

[nash123]

The problem is, that this guys are "cheater". They can't get teams like that at normal ways. I know that on my own, because I've many Fast Trainer in my team and at 140% (8*) they don't gain that much. I trained my best two guys from last season (both 19 y.o.) at the beginning of the season to 135%. They reached 140% on 4th the of the season. Now... one of them is 145%, the other one is 142%. They played ALL games and they got around 2-3 trainings per day. If you are good at math, you know, how much money they have to spend for such a team.
You can report them, but it's useless. Since the start of Associsations, you can see them in high numbers, but Nordeus does nothing against them. I also got the answer, that they are legal, they spend money,...


And by the meaning of cheating, they use(d) VPN to farm greenpacks like hell. VPN is illegal (terms of use).
There also was a post at this forum, that they use it.

[Moi]

The problem is, that this guys are "cheater". They can't get teams like that at normal ways. I know that on my own, because I've many Fast Trainer in my team and at 140% (8*) they don't gain that much. I trained my best two guys from last season (both 19 y.o.) at the beginning of the season to 135%. They reached 140% on 4th the of the season. Now... one of them is 145%, the other one is 142%. They played ALL games and they got around 2-3 trainings per day. If you are good at math, you know, how much money they have to spend for such a team.
You can report them, but it's useless. Since the start of Associsations, you can see them in high numbers, but Nordeus does nothing against them. I also got the answer, that they are legal, they spend money,...


And by the meaning of cheating, they use(d) VPN to farm greenpacks like hell. VPN is illegal (terms of use).
There also was a post at this forum, that they use it.

I don't know how many times do I have to say that a user can't know who is a cheater or who is not. Many users make their purchases of tokens and get better teams, so it may look like as a cheater when he's not. The fact that something takes a lot of money to accomplish doesn't mean there's no one willing to pay that amount. I also mentioned that we monitor all Top Associations and removed any team not playing by the rules.

For example, the user reported first in this thread, the Chinese guy, is a payer. He has made a lot of purchases, that's how he has built this team.

If you have any proof of his cheating, please send it to me. But if you don't have it, then please stop making false statements.

And furthermore: unlike you said, we check absolutely ALL reports. The fact that you reported someone and he is still playing means he is no cheater, not that we didn't check.

[reddeviljohn]

I don't know how many times do I have to say that a user can't know who is a cheater or who is not. Many users make their purchases of tokens and get better teams, so it may look like as a cheater when he's not. The fact that something takes a lot of money to accomplish doesn't mean there's no one willing to pay that amount. I also mentioned that we monitor all Top Associations and removed any team not playing by the rules.

For example, the user reported first in this thread, the Chinese guy, is a payer. He has made a lot of purchases, that's how he has built this team.

If you have any proof of his cheating, please send it to me. But if you don't have it, then please stop making false statements.

And furthermore: unlike you said, we check absolutely ALL reports. The fact that you reported someone and he is still playing means he is no cheater, not that we didn't check.

Then how are these Chinese managers from association at level 5 and have the same quality as us at level 22 it is impossible as u cannot buy players above your level?

[Moi]

Then how are these Chinese managers from association at level 5 and have the same quality as us at level 22 it is impossible as u cannot buy players above your level?

First of all, he doesn't have players with the same quality as level 22:



You see it with 9 stars because you're checking his team from Associations, and in Associations only stars matters, not real quality. He has 9 star players, so in Associations you see them with 9 star players, not his real quality (which is "50" as you can see) even if he is 15-20 levels below you.

It's very easy to get 9 star players if you use the personal trainer. Of course it's going to cost you some tokens, but if you buy the best scout in the list (or the best recommended player offered to you) he will be already almost 7 stars. Going from 7 to 9 will cost you tokens but not as much as you imagine.

As I was saying, anyone has any proof for his accusations against this guy or can you accept you are dealing with a Manager who buys tokens?

[reddeviljohn]

First of all, he doesn't have players with the same quality as level 22:



You see it with 9 stars because you're checking his team from Associations, and in Associations only stars matters, not real quality. He has 9 star players, so in Associations you see them with 9 star players, not his real quality (which is "50" as you can see) even if he is 15-20 levels below you.

It's very easy to get 9 star players if you use the personal trainer. Of course it's going to cost you some tokens, but if you buy the best scout in the list (or the best recommended player offered to you) he will be already almost 7 stars. Going from 7 to 9 will cost you tokens but not as much as you imagine.

As I was saying, anyone has any proof for his accusations against this guy or can you accept you are dealing with a Manager who buys tokens?

Words fail me but u know what I am done with you

[Aldin Čolić]

Associations are the worst. I'm a level 52 and I mostly played with members of level 5 to 33.
Every game is some kind of pain for eyes. My players are at level of skills of 270 to 282, and can't beat a players of 70. It's not good.
What's about of experience?
Where is that?
It's not normal that a weaker manager be a better of team a level like mine.
It's look like better to start from a level 1 and played against a stronger managers.

[madflo19]

Associations are the worst. I'm a level 52 and I mostly played with members of level 5 to 33.
Every game is some kind of pain for eyes. My players are at level of skills of 270 to 282, and can't beat a players of 70. It's not good.
What's about of experience?
Where is that?
It's not normal that a weaker manager be a better of team a level like mine.
It's look like better to start from a level 1 and played against a stronger managers.

All managers are equal no matter their level, a 5 stars players for level 5 is same as a 5 stars players for level 50, their quality is counted by how many stars they have and not by their quality per level because in this way you are free to group with any manager no matter of what is his level.

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[a1i]

Associations are the worst. I'm a level 52 and I mostly played with members of level 5 to 33.
Every game is some kind of pain for eyes. My players are at level of skills of 270 to 282, and can't beat a players of 70. It's not good.
What's about of experience?
Where is that?
It's not normal that a weaker manager be a better of team a level like mine.
It's look like better to start from a level 1 and played against a stronger managers.

Oh my god! You see what I'm referring to? This guy has been playing for more than 4 years!!!!!!!!!! And still, he has no clue how things work. Come on man, just read the rules. This is utterly embarrassing to even ask. Ok let me answer, association is NOT about levels, it's about stars. Dont look at their rating outside of associations. Look at their rating inside... The PERCENTAGE% ... that should give you a semblance of how to compare players from different "so called experience" levels.

Geez.... unbelievable!

[nash123]

First of all, he doesn't have players with the same quality as level 22:



You see it with 9 stars because you're checking his team from Associations, and in Associations only stars matters, not real quality. He has 9 star players, so in Associations you see them with 9 star players, not his real quality (which is "50" as you can see) even if he is 15-20 levels below you.

It's very easy to get 9 star players if you use the personal trainer. Of course it's going to cost you some tokens, but if you buy the best scout in the list (or the best recommended player offered to you) he will be already almost 7 stars. Going from 7 to 9 will cost you tokens but not as much as you imagine.

As I was saying, anyone has any proof for his accusations against this guy or can you accept you are dealing with a Manager who buys tokens?

And you believe your in own words?

If you buy the best scout player (115%) it costs 1968 token to max him. If he buys "only" 11 of these guys, it costs 21648 Token, without the cost of the player itself.
100€ = 1500 T, that means, this guy payed more than 1400€ for this game?

Okay... I believe in you, but after the season, he lost a star. I can't say exactly how much the cost for this single star, but based on my best player it would be around 600 T. So he spend another 6600 Token - that's more than 400 €... EVERY month.

[Moi]

And you believe your in own words?

If you buy the best scout player (115%) it costs 1968 token to max him. If he buys "only" 11 of these guys, it costs 21648 Token, without the cost of the player itself.
100€ = 1500 T, that means, this guy payed more than 1400€ for this game?

Okay... I believe in you, but after the season, he lost a star. I can't say exactly how much the cost for this single star, but based on my best player it would be around 600 T. So he spend another 6600 Token - that's more than 400 €... EVERY month.

Yes, that's how it works. There's more players like this than you would imagine. And as someone over here as mentioned, thanks to these kind of players Top Eleven can continue to be free to play for everyone.