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    Quote Originally Posted by Awe Imoleayo Peter View Post
    Haha....you really pissed
    Yeah, unexpected. Get 'em, Al!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awe Imoleayo Peter View Post
    Haha....you really pissed
    I took a 5km run (21:30) and feel better now...

    I was fuming!
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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
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    Ah okay, I see, what you say.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Regarding your association conceding 3 goals in the last 3 minutes, I think (not entirely sure) that could be a product of the win bonus. I think having a high win bonus increases the odds of scoring late.
    If the height (depending on level) doesn't matter, like Nordeus says, I don't think so, because we all play full win bonus.

    Quote Originally Posted by pcmacdaniel View Post
    Out of curiousity, are the 5 member associations your group is drawing, in general poorly managed compared to the 6 member ones? I would think the sacrificing the opportunity to earn 48 points, by only having 5 members would be a disadvantage regarding promotion when reaching the higher leagues, since we'll need to earn more points per season to secure promotion, due to losing a greater # of points when that 20% reduction occurs. But if draws are easier, hmm... maybe not!
    Maybe I can tell you more about that at the end of the season. We won 12 times (1x 2nd, 2x3rd) with six members. I made of all screenshots, so I can tell you exactly, how many points we made. At the beginnig (without first FA), we made around 50-65 Points, but since 7th FA, we got always strong(er) FAs, we dropped down to 37-46 points.
    We made with only 5 members average 39 points, so we "only" lost max. 7 points at the moment - at maximum, we lose 28 points per season and that's not that much.
    And no... I don't think, 5 team FAs are poorly managed - We didn't see any difference compared to 6 team FAs, but it's bit too early for a conclusion.
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    @ Al
    Maybe he has to work? Maybe he has a game at ~11pm, so he can't set it better?

    I also changed playtimes of important games last season a few times, because I wasn't able to be there. I think, it's okay to change your HOME time... you play at home, so you can choose, whatever you want. Away, you have to take it.


    Today, was great: We won at league 8:0 (vs. 12. place), 3 goals/2 assists Weigl, 4 goals/4 assists Costa.

    At cup, we won away 2:3. Opponent hadn't lost at cup and league, was 7% stronger than us. 2 goals scored by Costa, 1 by Kraxner, 3 assists by my playmaker.

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    Yesterday we conceded our 2nd defeat in league by 1:0, we are still 3rf but this isn't a good sign for sure.
    It have been happening to me the last few seasons, great first half, starts 2nd half and I start the bad results.

    Not to worried still 10 points ahead of 9th, I only whant to try the new competition.
    THIS GAME IS TO RANDOM! I STOP WAISTING MY TIME!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nash123 View Post
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    Maybe he has to work? Maybe he has a game at ~11pm, so he can't set it better?

    I also changed playtimes of important games last season a few times, because I wasn't able to be there. I think, it's okay to change your HOME time... you play at home, so you can choose, whatever you want. Away, you have to take it.
    Yeah, and I have changed my mind about this guy. He is one hour ahead of me over there and sat the game time to 02:30 AM (3.30 AM for him). I thought it was some lame attempt to screw us both and that he wouldn't show. But he showed, and had all his friends with him (this is what I call devotion!! Damn!):

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    And like you say, I can't fault him, its his option. But I do maybe think that -- since watching games is so important -- it shouldn't be possible to move them to the middle of the night.

    But Al FC, with its modified 5-4-1 formation -- inspired by Åge Hareide's Malmö FF's approach that took them to two straight CLs -- is a tough nut to crack and my guys got the job done again:

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    I am not sure what happened, but I would guess at that I had a slight advantage which gave me a 2-0 lead early thanks to a lot of luck basically, then he started to pressure too hard which exposed him defensively.

    I think that is a good lesson to learn in this game. Its hard to win a game, I don't know how many times I have taken a 2-0 lead in an even game, then in the end the opponent comes back and ties it, or the other way around. BUT, a game is very easy to "loose". A red card. You start to pressure to hard offensively. Stuff like that. Best approach is probably to just try to hang in there. Like even if you face an opponent a bit worse than you and the game is close, say you are only up by a goal after 45', don't start to push hard to put the game away. Most of the time it can cost you a lot.

    But Al FC is a bit like this. Sure it has the odd stinker, but most of the time its a very hard team to beat and good opponents tends to fall apart against it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Svanberg View Post
    And like you say, I can't fault him, its his option. But I do maybe think that -- since watching games is so important -- it shouldn't be possible to move them to the middle of the night.
    I'm don't with you, because that means, worst case you couldn't watch both games. If you are 8-10 hours ahead/back, your opponent has the disadvantage.


    And... you also learned: watching/friends don't give you a victory. The only advantage you have, if you are watching: you can change formation/tactic - BUT I think, if you aren't there, the AM will "change" tactics on his thoughts. That can be good or bad.
    My "problem" is, I want to win/lose an my own. I don't the ask myself: "Did I win, if I was away? Did I lost, because I wasn't there?" I don't want to let the AM decide, what to do. That's the reason, why I try to be there everytime.


    First game today, we played 2.leg CL at home. We won 4:0, but I think, Weigl need few games to recover. After his furious beginning, he wasn't that good the last games. He said, he don't need a break, he wanna try to take the record of Costa. I understand his point, but if I take a look at his performance, I think he is a bit tired. We have two league games before the 2nd leg of cup starts. Both games, he will be at the substitutes' bench. I hope, he isn't angry with me... but we need Weigl in a good/perfect shape.
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    I was absent and so dunno how this happened, it is not my tactics that u am very sure of, I beat him 2 1 at his ground. Maybe the tanking was wrong, coz I lost with 9goals. Anyway...I am out of champions league
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    Quote Originally Posted by Al Svanberg View Post
    Yeah, and I have changed my mind about this guy. He is one hour ahead of me over there and sat the game time to 02:30 AM (3.30 AM for him). I thought it was some lame attempt to screw us both and that he wouldn't show. But he showed, and had all his friends with him (this is what I call devotion!! Damn!):

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    And like you say, I can't fault him, its his option. But I do maybe think that -- since watching games is so important -- it shouldn't be possible to move them to the middle of the night.

    But Al FC, with its modified 5-4-1 formation -- inspired by Åge Hareide's Malmö FF's approach that took them to two straight CLs -- is a tough nut to crack and my guys got the job done again:

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    I am not sure what happened, but I would guess at that I had a slight advantage which gave me a 2-0 lead early thanks to a lot of luck basically, then he started to pressure too hard which exposed him defensively.

    I think that is a good lesson to learn in this game. Its hard to win a game, I don't know how many times I have taken a 2-0 lead in an even game, then in the end the opponent comes back and ties it, or the other way around. BUT, a game is very easy to "loose". A red card. You start to pressure to hard offensively. Stuff like that. Best approach is probably to just try to hang in there. Like even if you face an opponent a bit worse than you and the game is close, say you are only up by a goal after 45', don't start to push hard to put the game away. Most of the time it can cost you a lot.

    But Al FC is a bit like this. Sure it has the odd stinker, but most of the time its a very hard team to beat and good opponents tends to fall apart against it.
    I agree with you about the best approach sometimes is to just hang in there and not change anything.

    Last weekend in associations I encountered a situation like this. I was up 2-1 at the 70 minute mark, when my opponent clearly changed to a more attacking setup, since he started dominating possession. At this point in time, I knew that the best case scenario for my association was a draw and we were trailing on GD -2 at that time. If GD got to 0 and they didn't score anymore goals in the matches still being played, we'd be even on away goals as well, which if I recall Nash123's earlier post correctly means we'd be headed to penalty shootout. So, since my opponent decided to open up defensively, I responded by changing from my orders from normal, mixed, low press, zonal to attacking, short, high press, m2m; I knew this favored me as well since he wasn't in an attacking formation and I had 8* players on both flanks. I also had to take risk, he didn't, because of the GD. I scored the 3rd goal while I was changing orders, then in the final 10 minutes scored two more as his defense came completely unglued and we escaped with a win on goal differential (21-20).
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    Nash- Yeah, it would have to be combined with some kind of geographical/time-zone split of the severs.

    But you have that already, right? I am sure there are odd exceptions, but I've only had games between like 8am and 11 PM the last seasons.

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