Unless you're a noob in auctions/bidding war like me...
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Ok....so no matter these youngsters are fast trainers or good performers, they are token suckers and green pack drainers for sure.
So my decision is to stay away from them, good luck guys lol.
I think the system takes the average manager (50-60%). And then maybe it is useful to buy a youthplayer.
If u have a team full of 5 and 6 stars, like me,whats the use of buying players with tokens who are 2,3 or 4 stars?
Only for trainingbonusses I keep the young players I get. And I will never spend tokens on them. Not even 1.
Yeah you're not wrong for that one
Back then I was unable to buy a single player unless I'm very lucky so my team was between 2-4 star with only two 5* players. I was really underperforming at that time so sometimes I was tempted to sign a 4* player which costs 24T...
Luckily there are more servers for auctions so bidding wars appear less often...
Don't have enough Token to survive this biding war. No option than to avoid early signing .
Well Moi DON"T hurry in replying to any of us LOL....Our concerns and voices are worthless as it seems, as you guys don't give a flying **** on actually doing something as we suggest....Way to listen to your spenders...Pathetic
TL;DR? no significant improve?
This is a bit unnecessarily harsh. It's the weekend, it's just an opening announcement.
Many of us seem to have unrealistic expectations about communication and development. If Nordeus is taking any step to improve aspects of the game or reach the community, this is encouraging.
Does anyone bother to pump up a four star youth to five stars (in a team otherwise filled with 5-6 star players) -- when they start off with around 65% quality?
Do no. of skills received make any difference? (noticed certain ones who receive lower no. of skill point per session seem to get more skills at times than ones who get more skill points per session)?
I am impressed that it's possible to make such a little improvement :confused:
I am impressed that you 're impressed :rolleyes:
It was stated that our concerns and voices were heard? NOT really..This isn't an improvement at all and if they "think" they've improved this, then what's up with RECOMMENDATIONS ? 16 tokens for a middle 4 stars player??? LOOOOL....I mean common wtf it's happening ? I remember all recommendations until a month ago were at least 5 stars and many times 6 stars for the Top player...So here kitty kitty we improved academy and we destroyed recommendations right? Pffffffff for me this is a BIG JOKE !
My first one better be a striker!
Alessio,
Did you get a recommended player today? If so it´s screwed up on the first day of a new season again I was recommended a keeper today 79 tokens for a 5 star player (It´s a bug) This has happened a few times to me.
And yes they´re not listening to anyone…The youth academy is still useless even after the reduction in token costs for a player & to top it all off many are facing higher level opponents in the Champions League just like the cup.
To be honest they´re slowly pissing me off with this game….
Pffffffff talking about Champions League...I've just checked mine and I am the ONLY Level 25, all the rest are level 26 and close to my quality or higher, but they still have one level above so they can all become higher quality than me...Unless I pour down greens haha
I was initially excited to see this announcement. but lost hope with what I'm seeing. 2 days until I get my still useless youth
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I'd give maybe 15-20T for academy kid who is close to 6 stars and 20-25T for the same type of player with SA... but oh well..
Not sure why Nordeus keeps YA useless since so many years... it's a lose situation for both sides.. 99% managers sign just 0T player to sell him or use him for tranning bonuses and thats it.. sad.
My first cup victory came with an academy Gk, don't underestimate these players, unless you are of the 6*-7* team persuasion these players can be very useful.
My 1st back to back league titles came with an academy graduate with 18 tokens who was a fast trainer but at that time my team used to be 5* comprising 4* members. Now i got a 6* with minimum of 5* players above 90% rating. So how much useful is this 65% skilful player is going to be i wonder though still amused to see it's more expensive than a similar defender with 99% rating....not sure what to do...should i trai it or leave it to train others who are all at least 20% more powerful.....!!!!
hrid (football wizards)
So it's MONDAY,,,,,We've been talking like fools all weekend here and NOT even a reply from the admins in regards of this ""AMAZING"" improvement LOOOL
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Thanks for moderating your caps; all caps complaints are the really annoying ones.
IMO Players coming through your Academy should be free! I just keep the free ones [0 tokens] and just sell them to make extra money for the club. It's cheaper getting an 18yr old noob from the marketplace, and I find they've got better ratings too! Why should I buy an 18yr old noob from my own academy for around 12-20 tokens when I can get one for less on the market!?
Exactly..We've been talking about this all weekend but we are just getting IGNORED by MOI and the other admins. In the end I trully know that some of our suggestions are a lot better for the game and for the game's revenues..Must be cause we are passionate about the game we're playing and we might have some brains also..If only our voices were actually heard as MOI pretended in this thread LOL
Let us be patient with the admins, people don't work during weekend after all.
But I do agree that if this young academy thing can be meaningfully improved, it could be a win-win to both players and Nordeus. Imagine this: if there is a great player, who wants to simply ignore him? In consequence, there will be a lot of investments on him (packs, tokens) etc... the manager will be pleased by having such a good player and Nordeus can earn profit as well (people either click on commercials or buy tokens to get packs).
But if it stays as is, who cares about these young players? And who knows if he will be good or not, even after spending a lot of resources? So in consequence most of us just sign the free one and dump the non-free one.
So sad .... it has been years since we stated this topic but it is still basically what it is ....
The only thing that makes me want to punch Nordeus directly is how expensive the Youth Players are.
Because even if you remove the price, you can clearly see that it's very hard to get the player you want coz you don't know what kind of high quality player you get (Maybe you want DC but got AMC instead). And after getting one, you have to wait 24 days max or 12 days min to get a new one! That means if you don't have any skills in auctions, you might as well struggle with your sub par players (if you have them as main) to even promote.
I think the new prices are fair or at least way more then before so thank you Nordeus.
Got my youth graduation on 2nd day. Still same.
2 star player for 0T
4 star player at 76% for 12 T
I can get 18 yrs old 80-85% on market at 1-3T
And what's the point of Personal trainer on player's screen? Or "Fully rest" and "Fully restore morale" on the Home screen? Or speed up resting period in Physio Centre?
Maybe we shouldn't underestimate players' stupidity and lazyness. Or maybe Nordeus', I don't know xD
Honestly prices are irelevant as long as the players quality sucks....I would pay 20-30 tokens for an academy player if he would be a player that would actually HELP my team, and that means to be 5-6 stars....Again on another account I got a stupid recommendation of Top player being 4 stars at 61% and costs 7 tokens.....WHY did the recommendations sucks so badly now??? I want to see 6 stars on my top player and I will pay whatever tokens asked for him....FFS seems like Nordeus doesn't want to get our tokens, honestly now....