[OFFICIAL] Further notes on the - New Auction system

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Originally Posted by RogLloyd1975

Seeing as forum opinion doesn't matter and feedback from Twitter and Facebook is best we should vent on there instead. Keep forum fun rather than complain

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That´s a fair point ..
Unfortunately the Top11 Facebook pages are full of total idiots I mean real twats :)

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Originally Posted by Bunzo

Just wait till the 14 day season is implemented :)

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After the last update I think it's already in development. So within 3 months implemented?

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Worst update ever - the changes to the transfer market have completely ruined the game

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Originally Posted by RogLloyd1975

After the last update I think it's already in development. So within 3 months implemented?

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Yes im expecting it in the next couple of months no matter what Nordeus has said...They will go ahead with this

I have tried my level best to find one person who likes this update.
STILL SEARCHING.......

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Originally Posted by achiie

I have tried my level best to find one person who likes this update and found none.
STILL SEARCHING.......

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You need to look on the Facebook and Twitter pages under twats.

Dear lorrrrd. I don't know what to do about my Captain now. Can't willingly send him to the abattoir.

Millions of Top Eleven players are now sad and dissapointed that they are being lied to, and actually each time they sell one of their players, that player dissapears forever into nothingness.

Everyone feels lied to because of this unrealistical system of basically lying to all of us the users

I found a minor good aspect of the new auction system.

When you bid for a plauer he goea to the upper list, in a real time auction list.
This bar has a bid button at the right side.

This helps a lot to bid multiple players in a single auction timeline, without enterig the player's card.

Multibidding now is more easier than previous.
Total tokens and money that the auction bid is on, is kept refreshin making a realtime auction info.

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Originally Posted by Cloverfield

I found a minor good aspect of the new auction system.

When you bid for a plauer he goea to the upper list, in a real time auction list.
This bar has a bid button at the right side.

This helps a lot to bid multiple players in a single auction timeline, without enterig the player's card.

Multibidding now is more easier than previous.
Total tokens and money that the auction bid is on, is kept refreshin making a realtime auction info.

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That had always been there...

Okay, so I've tried out the auction system quite a bit tonight. Some notes:

• While bid wars definitely end more quickly, the peak tokens are about the same as the old system. Haven't seen much past 50 yet.
• The main problem is that there is a base level of approximately 8 tokens for any player of reasonably quality and age. Perhaps this goes down later, but we saw late last season that the token floor was high then too.
• I think a good bit of the game's charm is lost in that any level can bid on any player. No longer are there "bidding rivarlies"; you're just bidding against random people you don't care about. This makes the system much less unique or engaging.
• The fact that human managers can't sell players to other human managers via Auctions still sucks. A lot.

Overall, do I hate it as much as I first did? No, probably not. Do I still hate it? Yes. Do I still think Nordeus should have both types of Auctions running at the same time? Yes. Will I quit if Nordeus keeps this around without changing it for a while? Definitely.

EDIT: Also, there is a cap to how many players you can see on the auction list that you've bid on in the past. I'd be okay with this if the max was 20 or 30, but it's closer to 10. That's not nearly enough for managers to do any kind of meaningful analysis. Makes it feel like a fast food restaurant.

I've watched the auctions for some minutes. The bidding wars are really insane. And it's not like level 1 managers are hitting the bid button like a mad man. In fact, I did not spot a single level 1 manager. All of them have experience in the old system, for a few months at least.

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This is the record I saw untill now. Who bids more? :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg

I've watched the auctions for some minutes. The bidding wars are really insane. And it's not like level 1 managers are hitting the bid button like a mad man. In fact, I did not spot a single level 1 manager. All of them have experience in the old system, for a few months at least.

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This is the record I saw untill now. Who bids more? :rolleyes:

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No you will not see any level 1 managers as they have their own TM ;)

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Originally Posted by Bunzo

No you will not see any level 1 managers as they have their own TM ;)

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Do they? Who told you that?

And now try to sell Pacheco. Nordeus will turn into forever nothingness and basically kill him, and will give you at maximum about 80 Millions, for Pacheco 18 years old that you paid 102 Tokens and 284 Millions...

Fairness is lost

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Originally Posted by Jeeves

Hello Everyone,

I’ve seen a lot of questions related to a few issues, namely bidding between levels and where players go when they’re sold on Auction and where you’re buying your players from.

Managers are bidding against other Managers from other levels, but thanks to this, we’re also introducing more, higher quality players more often (including things like 5* players throughout the season). When this happens, Managers are seeing player quality/price relative to their level. It won’t cost your opponent in an auction more or less cash to bid, and their quality won’t be static - they will be added to the winning Manager’s level and have consistent quality with that level.

Now, when it comes to players on auction, here’s how it works.

When you sell a player on Auction, the system does buy them, and players you buy on the Transfer market are fresh players. We made this change for several reasons, namely to increase the sell rate for Managers and to introduce new, quality players for Managers at all levels. We heard regular feedback from long-time Managers regarding not seeing enough quality players at high levels, and as some of you have commented already, you can already see players with multiple positions/high quality/stars regularly. In this sense, we have sacrificed some football realism for the sake of introducing more players for all Managers.

Managers on the forum have raised good points about sentimental connections to their players. It’s a big change in this regard, but Negotiations are still available, which of course still allows you to directly buy players from other Managers. :)

Regarding Special Abilities. While some players on auction still have them, you have to open their profile to see it. We understand your point about wanting to see this important information quickly though, and will be returning the Special Abilities to the Transfers menu in the near future.

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this is very poor move. I knew you simply copied the cricket game hitwicket style but this game is different from that game. by this move you will force the managers to buy the tokens. player visibility should be limited to that level only. When you are trying adapt other game's idea then you have to think about the base of the game from which game you are adapting. because the base of each game is different.

Hope you will consider this and change the player visibility remains to that level only.

Every 4 minutes, nordeus randomly generates millions of new "players" bots who are available for bidding in the auctions system.

Then, TE users throw millions of expensive, hard earned Tokens at these "players" random newly generated bots, plus billions of cash.

nordeus just invented an automated nonstop cash machine that brings them millions of token and billions of cash every 4 minutes

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Won 2 of 2 of my first bids of the season, and have sold 2 forwards at first trial.

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This was going to end in one of those crazy wars. Didn't bother watching.

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The Situation is Bad. The system is Bad.

For a few minutes ... a DC DR DL cost 50 Token.

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No you will not see any level 1 managers as they have their own TM

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Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg

Do they? Who told you that?

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In my lv30 team there aren't first levels managers and in my reserves, lv1, there are only lv1 &2 managers.

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Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg

Do they? Who told you that?

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Nordeus brought that in on the 2nd day(?) of this new TM set up
There was notification here on the forum.

Agree with most sentiments here. Cannot sell my 'past it and cannot train' 26 yr old legends for love nor money even though 2 of them have special abilities. The fact that players peak at 18-21 is galling anough but then to not get a bid on any player time after time. Ludicrous.

I have given up trying to sell & just used the sell now option.

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Originally Posted by Bunzo

I have given up trying to sell & just used the sell now option.

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But for a s**t price? Nightmare.

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Originally Posted by Bunzo

Nordeus brought that in on the 2nd day(?) of this new TM set up
There was notification here on the forum.

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I really missed that part. Any one has a quote on this?

On 43rd attempt to sell a 22 yr old 98% player........

My motivation is extremly down...

Saved the word and sentence..what's a joke system..just barely 19 years old player..with 69 tokens u even get 7 stars young player instead..BUT BLOODY BATTLE COME UP WITH AN IDIOT WANTED TO WIN BADLY AND HE BID FOR 76 TOKENS..

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this is so dumb I really hope Nordeus change the transfer system again and actually make it fair for all levels. All the good players are now being bought by high level players so that the only way you can get 5* players is through negotiation or if you have enough tokens though the scout. this game has gotten so dead because of this. Please change this Nordeus.

Level 1 bidders.
To confirm again - Level 1s bid in their own bracket. They don't bid with higher level users.

Bidding in general.
From my own experience in the past days (and the beginning of the new season), I've seen all ends of the spectrum when it comes to bidding wars, just like previous years. :/
Was able to snatch a couple players for 1T not 10 minutes ago. But yesterday I left 17T for a single player. This doesn't differ from what I usually experienced in the auction when out hunting for talent.

Feedback.
Again, we're really grateful that all of you are expressing your thoughts. I'm gathering and relaying lots of constructive comments from this and other threads.

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Originally Posted by jcohen42

Okay, so I've tried out the auction system quite a bit tonight. Some notes:

• While bid wars definitely end more quickly, the peak tokens are about the same as the old system. Haven't seen much past 50 yet.
• The main problem is that there is a base level of approximately 8 tokens for any player of reasonably quality and age. Perhaps this goes down later, but we saw late last season that the token floor was high then too.
• I think a good bit of the game's charm is lost in that any level can bid on any player. No longer are there "bidding rivarlies"; you're just bidding against random people you don't care about. This makes the system much less unique or engaging.
• The fact that human managers can't sell players to other human managers via Auctions still sucks. A lot.

Overall, do I hate it as much as I first did? No, probably not. Do I still hate it? Yes. Do I still think Nordeus should have both types of Auctions running at the same time? Yes. Will I quit if Nordeus keeps this around without changing it for a while? Definitely.

EDIT: Also, there is a cap to how many players you can see on the auction list that you've bid on in the past. I'd be okay with this if the max was 20 or 30, but it's closer to 10. That's not nearly enough for managers to do any kind of meaningful analysis. Makes it feel like a fast food restaurant.

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Your 3rd point really stood out for me. Great comment overall. I would really like to hear more opinions about everyone's bidding experience now that the new season has begun. :)

I see: good players min 30, some 50 or 60 tokens.

For me it is too crazy.

And for me, it is a desaster.

Hello hello,
is 13.00 sunday, normally at this time I had about 100news in my mailbox in the game that my friends (about 40) bought or sold new players before new season strart. How about today? Only 4... Do we spend tokens as Nordeus wants? No my friends... Now is completly different game...

Isn't this list a bit unpractical?

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mid range player sold for obscene tokens !

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with the 4 minutes to sel the players servers are getting more overload and we have enough problems already with the servers if there are a lot of matches

so Nordeus didnt think about that ????

Why making the game more unstable by overloading the servers

And 4 minutes to sell why not an hour and how the get sell the acadamy players on transfer a 2 stars stays a 2 star for every manager even the lowest lvl managers only through negotation the acadamy players are now interesting for lower managers

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Originally Posted by Gert Funck

Isn't this list a bit unpractical?

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mid range player sold for obscene tokens !

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The only way to clear that lot is to log out and back in again...

I'd have bid a few tokens on that player (youngish, dual-role, near next star), but 60-odd? No way...

The new sale-purchase system is a total disaster. The transfer market is a big fake, unreal. For example, if Juventus wants to sell a player, it can be bought by Macherster City, Bayern Munich, Real Madrid, etc. The player is "bought" by the system and withdraws from activity. Managers, in turn, buy players from the system, so nowhere, a 27-year-old player, where did he play? On the beaches of Brazil and going to the professionals so by miracle. The transfer market is not free, it is controlled by the system. In fact, the market for player transfers, and the sale-purchase of any products is free. Another unsettled aspect is that we can not buy players that value, for example, 95% from friends. In fact, if the Valencia team wants to send an offer to the X player, Lyon does it. This is impossible. Total disaster, no logic.Please go back to the previous version. Otherwise, most likely many managers will give up this game.

What can I say my 102% team was drawn with +1 level opponents.

Now all managers can buy good 99% players.

So in just one day all my opponents have better teams than mine.

Cups and champions league draws with higher level managers becomes even more unfair

I got 2 18yo (ft probably) players tonight for 17 and for 2 tokens.
I dont think there is a problem to generate unlimited amount of players so everyone can finally get lucky.
But would u guys really be happy about this new system even if we lets say can get talents a bit easier and cheaper as before? Nordeus told it, wait guys how it goes, give it a chance. So as a compromis they create more players.
I would still find the whole thing awful, as the interaction is gone, so its totaly boring to kill old stars and get new from a birth machine.
Also, now we arent able to sell good players at prices they deserve. But overpay when buying. But even if Nordeus fixed that, it wouldnt be the same fun tm.

"a birth machine" I really did laugh out loud :)