QUESTION - Why you play?

This is a question I always ask myself no matter what game I play: Why I play? What makes me to come and do it, day after day for years and after a while there remain only one reason "Community and Top Eleven friends".

This thing starts to happen for myself even with Top Eleven. I play now for around 5,6 years and something so pretty much I saw everything that Top Eleven had to show.

When is about Top Eleven, I am active everywhere, on forum, on Facebook, on YouTube and I even opened a website TOPELEVEN.INFO which is probably the only one fan site on this scale and I even dare the say the biggest unofficial Top Eleven project.

Hard work do pays off and I would lie if I would say that I wouldn't receive a special treatment from Nordeus and Top Eleven. I can say I played this game like nobody else from pretty much all points of view. Nordeus also helped me in many, many ways and I had the chance to visit the main office, Biggleswade and others but despite all these things, Nordeus played to much with Top Eleven recently and actually touch the "emotional part" of the game leaving a game which I can describe it as a game with no soul or a hit and run game.

The reason I am saying this is because Nordeus almost removed all the things that gave your team a unique view. There is almost nothing left.

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No more trophy room - Since, Top Eleven closed officially the old version of the game, there's no way for us to check on other managers or other managers to check on us. Unless we do not share them somehow, nobody knows who we are, what we won, what we fight for. This is a super silly thing! For myself at the moment, the only way to share my trophies is to "write a text", no chance to make a picture on all the trophies, season by season because I would need to take around 50 unique pictures. Nobody is that crazy!

No more stadiums - At a low level, I was always curious what stadium do my opponents have but at the moment this is something we cannot check anymore. I don't really understand why it was removed because I don't see how this could harm the game.

No more flags - While Top Eleven sent us on an almost endless run to collect them, suddenly they decided to close the flags tab, a page that actually didn't request to much work once it was done already.

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No more skill points - I was never a fan of them and is true that some managers took it to the next level and abused it more then they should but the good thing with them was that it was actually a way of playing the game. Something that worked for many managers.

No more transfers between players - One of the worst things so far because while you might struggle to buy a good player now and spend a lot of tokens and moneys, for your players will bid a robot (if he will) and you will only get an amount of money which is under his basic price, no matter how good the player is, if he have 3 positions and special ability. Sorry Nordeus but this is only one way win for Top Eleven. Now I am even struggling to sell 18, 19 years old players, almost to new star with special ability, going 15 times plus on sale and no chance to sell them, this doesn't make sense at all, because on the old system, I would be able to sell these players super easy on the first days of the season for a very good deal for me.

No more bidding rivals - I would honestly agree with this if our players that we sell would be on sale for managers and not for bots but otherwise is pretty much again only one way win for you guys. As long as you create endless auction at all levels and we buy from computer and not managers, there's no point to bid against other managers from other levels. This would only increase the player price. Plus and worst, you destroyed again, years of transfers because playing this game for years, some managers would start to know you and avoid you or bid against you based on previous experience.

No more bidding strategies - The bidding is a totally mess now and there's almost no strategy at all. While before we could risk or play on intimidation on the auction, now seems like a free for all to try because now you can just drop a token to see what happens with no lose for you but with a big impact for the final buyer.

No more manual substitutions while offline - How can you guys say we control our team when you do it for us. This is a very silly, silly, silly thing and no matter how good you improve the auto-sub, you can never take a better decision then us because you can't guess what we want. At the moment the game I assume is following some algorithm but how can you know exactly what we want, you removed basically removed the human factor from this equation. Maybe I don't want to use X or Y player for a certain reason "bad previous performance"; "increasing the risk of getting cards"; "saving condition and moral for x and y player" and others.

No more statistics - Why would you do this. Knowing that it was actually a loved feature, when you guys decided to come the new version it should be already in. Many managers worked really hard to get some impressive players statistics but now seems is pointless to do it .

No more "Take Over" - A feature that I remember Top Eleven used to be very proud of. Removed pretty much over the night. I do believe it was a feature which allowed us to start again if we actually had the feeling that we failed before or if we just looked for a fresh start.

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And the list can continue ...

We lost many Gameplay strategies with these updates, things that actually worked for us and also many things that gave us a unique personality to our clubs and to us as managers.

On another side, I do believe Nordeus also did few good updates to the game, they nailed it with Associations, great update for Europa League, etc but touching to much the part that connects us with the game doesn't seems to be a good idea.




I do believe we had a lot of major updates in the game and what I would like to see at the moment is an improve for the things we already have in the game at the moment.

Top Eleven do have many "gems" that are awaiting to be polished, things that can bring a better and more interactive game play and a good revenue for them.



I am curious what makes other manager to play Top Eleve, what makes them to keep a strong connection with the game so please share your opinions but please do it in a polite way, there's no need for hard or rude words. Let's keep it on a good and constructive line!

Thanks for taking your time to read a long article.

Best,
T11 Manager

Nice post that. Pretty much sums it all up. I've been playing for 4 years, rarely missing a game. I too love this game. I agree some updates have been poor but I guess make sense financially from Nordeus point of view. Some updates are very good. But your post says it all.


KFC Loella
Level 43

Constructive post George. Why I play:

1) Fun game with addictive features
2) Love the transfer market to get that young fast trainer with SA
3) Strategic game with all possible formations
4) Fun stuff with the matches
5) Overall good gaming experience

Now, why I play less:
1) Still no real feel of control. Although you can do a lot, you never know what the effect is. Increase the attack during a life match. What is the increase? What does it do? What does it mean? Nobody can answer those for sure.
2) Still no explanation whatsoever about special abilities
3) Still no explanation about the percentages and the grey and white sections
4) Still no explanation about formations and counter formations
etc....

There is still so little known about the game that it is ridiculous. I can't understand that there isn't a simple guide that explains these things. If there are a million users a good guide would be mandatory. But to me it still feels like the monkey that is spinning the wheel that decides how far you will come.

Great post and I agree with everything you say.
Why I still play? Well I started with Top Eleven because it was a relateively small app for Android and PC, I could keep it open, and also it was easy to play and had an easy interface to unterstand. On a plus side I liked the idea to play with unknown teams and players, everything is customizable. My teams is really mine.
I tried other football manager games but didn't find another one that was funny with the same easy interface. I also tried PES but I think it's a mess, too much stuff going on, too much stuff that unlocks everytime and I can go on.

TE lost a lot of what it was in the past, the interface is still pleasant, but misses a lot of options that you listed. Associations was an incredibly funny update, but it's mostly bugged and/or rigged. I don't feel like I have the control on my team when I play, because despite having an 8* team, a 5* one can make me sweat or even lose. Whatever I do to my formation or tactic has no effect (at least visible and stats wise).

We didn't need the last auction update as well as other stuff, I would be glad to have no new additions in favor of only bug fixes and a more transparent gameplay. I'd like to know what I'm actually doing to my team, if I choose to play along the sides I'd like to actually see it in play, instead every game is just the same. Despite being much stronger than Mourinho and having the upper hand in game, I still can't score. It's time to know why, what factors actually have an influence during the game and why despite everything you just can't get a positive result. It's clear that there are "hidden" features that screw up you games, and possibly, seasons!

TE sure needs more new stuff, but we can wait if we get a fix on everything that is broken now! Let's get back the features that were removed, let's fix what's broken and let us have a bit more control on the team.
I didn't change to a better game, just because nothing has nailed it yet.

Strong opponents every season.
Not boring.
Keep me thinking.

Play to know if it all matters, or its all predestined ;)

Hi friend, I do not have such long history with T11 as you have. But while reading your article I've certainly found affinity for you. I really love T11, but this game could be SO MUCH BETTER. To name just a few changes that could add so much soul to the game:

1. Historical statistics - and that is including thropies, club legends (most games played, top scorer, most goals per season and etc.) and all sorts of stats.
2. Best managers/clubs list - top manager lists by world, country, level. Richest clubs, clubs that have highest win rates, most trophies, etc.
3. Throphy room - just to know that other could look and see how great and rich your club history is (even if no one is really looking) - makes a huge difference.

I think these are really small changes, but could have huge impact for the whole T11 community.

Other very important but not so easy to implement ideas:
4. League Chat - as simple as it sound, I know it brings a lot of challenges, but it could add a lot to this game.
5. Cup, CL and Europa league with same level opponents - every dedicated player knows how UNFAIR it feels to play against higher level opponents. They did not move a single finger to have that team, but we (dedicated managers) worked everyday, to get there, just to be eliminated by a slacker manager... this hurts!
6. Player growth with club level - this one is very complex. But I feel that every managers dream is to have his "invicible" team and keep them from 18 yr old until they retire. Unfortunately, it would take just too many green packs and personal trainers to keep players playable every season until they retire. One simple solution could be that players that come from youth academy at the end of season loose only 10% of their quality (or gain +10%, and then get -20% as everybody else...). This way we could build our teams around players from youth academy - imagine how amazing could that be !!
7. League structure. I know that T11 in this department is completely different and it is not like usual manager games where it is like a pyramid, where there is only one PREMIER LEAGUE, and few 2nd tire leagues, and more 3rd tier and uncountable amounts of x tier .... But still, the leagues, cups, CL, etc. - needs some structure. For example - because there 14 teams in a league and 8 of them are going up and 6 going down - the league structure should look the same as well, in the same league there should be only 1 team that had won last season, only 1 team that took 2nd place, etc. and 6 teams that came down from higher league. Exactly the same for CUP and champions league. But to correctly scale with CL and CUP, leagues should have 16 teams instead of 14.


Generally, I think it is good, that there is so much room for improvement, but now we need some evidence that we are heard by developers.

Cheers guys!

One of the best reads on TE.
Although i'm only level 8 but I must say I always liked TE playing on my lappy(old version).
I was introduced to this game through old version only and some of the features in old version were "Pure Gold"
I don't want to point out why nordeus did this or that but, I must say as a TE-fan that for quite a time I have seen many important features are removed one-by- one which literally used to be the USP of the game.

One thing I would like to add to the Pricop's list(if I may) is that in Associations their should not be any kind of Token award for the Top 10 teams, as managers
are tanking heavily and abusing loan feature so much so that matches are highly imbalanced. Changes like this which may seem small and doesn't affect 99% of managers may increase the overall spirit within the game.

Thanks Pricop for sharing your views.
I hope someone forward it to the devs.

The only reason why I 'm still playing :

Because the other people do, like Khris, NIK, Talisman, Killroy, Gabez, and Gert

Edit: good post, kind of sad.

I ask myself this question on a regular basis... :)

That was a great sum-up Pricop.

I am not as old player as some other guys in here.
I' ve been in the game for 2+ years, and I strongly believe that we are running the worst version of TE

In fact I believe that there was an internal policy change in Nordeus.
The game is still good, it is progressing.
But it keeps losing its touch, being a bit cold and consumable (what the heck I am selling my fav players to a sinkhole and the new auction system will eliminated player legends)

I am still playing the game as it is the best mobile football manager.
But it moves way far from being realistic (storage wars in order to buy a player, tactics seem to play less and less their role) so maybe soon it wont be the best.
Competitor is just around the corner, and has a lot of history and experience..

I am still playing the game because it has a great in-game community with great guys,

I am still playing the game because I like its new platform and I strongly believe that it has endless room for improvement.

I am still playing the game because despite the token-gaining features I can still play free or cheap.

I am still playing the game because I bonded with my 2 teams and I don't want to let them down yet.

I am still playing the game because I STILL HAVE NOT WON A TREBLE WITH CLOVER 13 FFS!!!!

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This is a question I always ask myself no matter what game I play: Why I play? What makes me to come and do it, day after day for years and after a while there remain only one reason "Community and Top Eleven friends".

This thing starts to happen for myself even with Top Eleven. I play now for around 5,6 years and something so pretty much I saw everything that Top Eleven had to show.

When is about Top Eleven, I am active everywhere, on forum, on Facebook, on YouTube and I even opened a website TOPELEVEN.INFO which is probably the only one fan site on this scale and I even dare the say the biggest unofficial Top Eleven project.

Hard work do pays off and I would lie if I would say that I wouldn't receive a special treatment from Nordeus and Top Eleven. I can say I played this game like nobody else from pretty much all points of view. Nordeus also helped me in many, many ways and I had the chance to visit the main office, Biggleswade and others but despite all these things, Nordeus played to much with Top Eleven recently and actually touch the "emotional part" of the game leaving a game which I can describe it as a game with no soul or a hit and run game.

The reason I am saying this is because Nordeus almost removed all the things that gave your team a unique view. There is almost nothing left.

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No more trophy room - Since, Top Eleven closed officially the old version of the game, there's no way for us to check on other managers or other managers to check on us. Unless we do not share them somehow, nobody knows who we are, what we won, what we fight for. This is a super silly thing! For myself at the moment, the only way to share my trophies is to "write a text", no chance to make a picture on all the trophies, season by season because I would need to take around 50 unique pictures. Nobody is that crazy!

No more stadiums - At a low level, I was always curious what stadium do my opponents have but at the moment this is something we cannot check anymore. I don't really understand why it was removed because I don't see how this could harm the game.

No more flags - While Top Eleven sent us on an almost endless run to collect them, suddenly they decided to close the flags tab, a page that actually didn't request to much work once it was done already.

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No more skill points - I was never a fan of them and is true that some managers took it to the next level and abused it more then they should but the good thing with them was that it was actually a way of playing the game. Something that worked for many managers.

No more transfers between players - One of the worst things so far because while you might struggle to buy a good player now and spend a lot of tokens and moneys, for your players will bid a robot (if he will) and you will only get an amount of money which is under his basic price, no matter how good the player is, if he have 3 positions and special ability. Sorry Nordeus but this is only one way win for Top Eleven. Now I am even struggling to sell 18, 19 years old players, almost to new star with special ability, going 15 times plus on sale and no chance to sell them, this doesn't make sense at all, because on the old system, I would be able to sell these players super easy on the first days of the season for a very good deal for me.

No more bidding rivals - I would honestly agree with this if our players that we sell would be on sale for managers and not for bots but otherwise is pretty much again only one way win for you guys. As long as you create endless auction at all levels and we buy from computer and not managers, there's no point to bid against other managers from other levels. This would only increase the player price. Plus and worst, you destroyed again, years of transfers because playing this game for years, some managers would start to know you and avoid you or bid against you based on previous experience.

No more bidding strategies - The bidding is a totally mess now and there's almost no strategy at all. While before we could risk or play on intimidation on the auction, now seems like a free for all to try because now you can just drop a token to see what happens with no lose for you but with a big impact for the final buyer.

No more manual substitutions while offline - How can you guys say we control our team when you do it for us. This is a very silly, silly, silly thing and no matter how good you improve the auto-sub, you can never take a better decision then us because you can't guess what we want. At the moment the game I assume is following some algorithm but how can you know exactly what we want, you removed basically removed the human factor from this equation. Maybe I don't want to use X or Y player for a certain reason "bad previous performance"; "increasing the risk of getting cards"; "saving condition and moral for x and y player" and others.

No more statistics - Why would you do this. Knowing that it was actually a loved feature, when you guys decided to come the new version it should be already in. Many managers worked really hard to get some impressive players statistics but now seems is pointless to do it .

No more "Take Over" - A feature that I remember Top Eleven used to be very proud of. Removed pretty much over the night. I do believe it was a feature which allowed us to start again if we actually had the feeling that we failed before or if we just looked for a fresh start.

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And the list can continue ...

We lost many Gameplay strategies with these updates, things that actually worked for us and also many things that gave us a unique personality to our clubs and to us as managers.

On another side, I do believe Nordeus also did few good updates to the game, they nailed it with Associations, great update for Europa League, etc but touching to much the part that connects us with the game doesn't seems to be a good idea.




I do believe we had a lot of major updates in the game and what I would like to see at the moment is an improve for the things we already have in the game at the moment.

Top Eleven do have many "gems" that are awaiting to be polished, things that can bring a better and more interactive game play and a good revenue for them.



I am curious what makes other manager to play Top Eleve, what makes them to keep a strong connection with the game so please share your opinions but please do it in a polite way, there's no need for hard or rude words. Let's keep it on a good and constructive line!

Thanks for taking your time to read a long article.

Best,
T11 Manager

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You are really a super moderator and you understand us (the community) like no other moderators do,and you re right ,every update they remove something we love about the game soon it's going to be like candy crash a game for old people who like to spend cash on somethings they are supposed to get for free .

ps: it's really pissing me off see other moderators defending the market update , i mean any one could easily conclude that it's ruining the game and many teams will be bankrupt in the next 2 seasons .

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ps: it's really pissing me off see other moderators defending the market update , i mean any one could easily conclude that it's ruining the game and many teams will be bankrupt in the next 2 seasons .

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Some of the moderators which are still active are really helpful in the forum. Thanks to their tireless work,some of the threads here are well explained.
But, yes it is also true when it comes about this recent update(5.6) they almost look like nonchalant or either a bit frustrated by so many people voicing their discontent. They look very submissive to me, instead of pointing out the wrongs done by nordeus they just wanted that people should not show their disapproval. TBH, i was a bit surprised when I read their views on this update.

This behavior on their behalf is well....let's say "Not Expected" and reminded me of a quote from Dan Brown's novel "Inferno" which I think can be reactive so I will not share it.


But, as I said earlier they are overall very helpful and this also shows that they are good human-beings so no-hard feeling.

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Some of the moderators which are still active are really helpful in the forum. Thanks to their tireless work,some of the threads here are well explained.
But, yes it is also true when it comes about this recent update(5.6) they almost look like nonchalant or either a bit frustrated by so many people voicing their discontent. They look very submissive to me, instead of pointing out the wrongs done by nordeus they just wanted that people should not show their disapproval. TBH, i was a bit surprised when I read their views on this update.

This behavior on their behalf is well....let's say "Not Expected" and reminded me of a quote from Dan Brown's novel "Inferno" which I think can be reactive so I will not share it.


But, as I said earlier they are overall very helpful and this also shows that they are good human-beings so no-hard feeling.

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They call those people sellouts, they are compromising their integrity just to keep it cool with Nordeus ,maybe to keep their jobs or because they are getting paid or because Nordeus asked them to do it,it's very obvious what's wrong with the update no need to complain it here all over again .

Hello :)

I agree with everything you said Pricop :)

Still no explanation about illegal formations and hacks ;)

not having a trophy room, not be able to check the history and achievments of other managers is plan stupidity. i would not hire the current marketing director to run a hot dogs on wheels stand.

First, thank you all for taking your time and reading such a long post, means a lot to me.

@Killroy - Is true that despite they added more things recently, there's a lack of control, you cannot control anymore the skill points, auto substitution, transfers (the players you put on sale), etc. Regarding Special Ability, as far as I remember, the devs. told me that actually what special abilities do, is giving you the equivalent of plus one star on some skills depending on ability.
About tactics and formations they actually should work but for us as normal managers I do believe is impossible to know which works and which don't. I mean, I can bet that nobody manage to do a real test so far that can prove his tactics or formations do work against others. I pretty much play the same as I did in the first day of the season and I won a lot of trophies, most of then 90% plus are 1st so this proves that playing without countering can be at least as successful.

@Tyltyl - Well I feel your first words about the Top Eleven. I started to play for the same reason but it seems that Top Eleven expands maybe to much but maybe it's a must for them, I have no idea. Honestly I would like their future updates on fixing some bugs and here I do not talk about results, despite they are many times randomly or at least they look like, I am fine with them but there are still bugs and exploits available. Seeing the players abusing the tokens in the past years with no shame or control made me to feel stupid knowing that I play a game where "hacking" is so easy and nobody cares about. Is true that recently they manage to decrease it and seems a little better.
Regarding the Gameplay, the devs. told me that they would like to keep it somehow secret so everyone can develop it's own style, ideas, etc.

@ZeDzy - I do like your suggestion just as I mention them in my main post, we need somehow to share what we won, who we are, etc, because at the moment Top Eleven became a game where you stand alone, nobody can see anything about you, except the current season.
Competitions are good but yes, they should decrease the cases when you face +1 level in CL and League because is damn hard to win in those conditions but with the CUP I am completely alright to have a +3 levels difference because it simulates more realistic a real CUP but the only condition would be some kind of rotation so you can be at the lowest level between opponents but also at the highest level from time to time, this would clearly be more fair.
Regarding stars, honestly I wouldn't change anything because it would mean to change again the game idea and would really change the game to much.

achiie - Thanks for the nice words! I am never and I would never be a fan of tokens rewards for those who win trophies because technically you will boost them even more so would be more likely for them to win again. Is like promoting pretty much the same team or teams over and over again but thinking that the number of the teams is very small comparing with the numbers of teams that joins the Associations I think is OK, yet you are right. Knowing that is still possible to trick the system and is very likely that they do, doesn't seems right to give them tokens.

CM-16 - As well one of the reason I am still playing daily this game.

Cloverfield - I do feel the game is cold at the moment. Just as ELPocho said, somehow it feels like a game in Candy Crush style, a game you play only pretty much only for you, a game without rivals, history, etc. I feel like I only play for the level and that's all.

@ElPocho - I strongly agree with the first part but regarding the second part is another story and I believe everyone is free to defend their calls as long as they believe in and like them. Just as a moderator I decided to criticize Top Eleven, they are also right to defend if they feel is OK for them.
When you say moderators, you mean me, Khris, Pavel, Nik, etc or you mean admins & devs. because we as moderators (guys with green color), we are not really paid and we are all regular players helping the community and we have no obligation to defend Nordeus or Top Eleven if we believe they did a mistake from our point of view and I can confirm you no matter how much I criticize them, they actually never had any issue with, au contraire when I did it few years ago in a similar thing but on my website, they also gifted me which shows they are opened to listen to us.

enachev - I believe even the marketing director would laugh at your comment.


Nordeus invited me last year there so I can actually get a better look inside, to see how complex is the project and why sometimes the things can't be rushed and I can confirm that is a very, very huge project with over 100 employees so is like a small industry behind one game. I do believe that Top Eleven advanced a lot last year and this one so far. Is way more then I expected so I am not looking for big updates, I would prefer them focusing on small things that can touch the managers and improve what they already have in the game.


Thanks again to all and I am glad to see you guys also came with some constructive messages for Top Eleven, keep going.


PS: I have almost 24 hours since I am awake and I just got home after 10 hours of night shift so if I write something stupid inside the post that make no sense please excuse me.

Simple I enjoy the game,
Even at times when the game really pisses me off I stick with it I supose it´s just like supporting Leeds Utd :)

I'm in this for about a year plus a bit, many of this I don't know however in some I see this could be an improvement if it is on again. The big drawbacks in this year for me was the new auction system, pure rubbish. And the next is in CL and Cup I have to play always against oponents of higher leagues but I'm not allowed to buy on these markets (which would provide me up to 119% player same as he can do instead of only 99% players). This is a clear swindle Nordeus wants to sell this a feature that all the zealous managers are challenged > in fact you're under compulsion either to give up the Cup's or to invest a plethora of green bricks,.....and that's the goal and too obvious. I think about to plan the seasons different one time I go for the league, next time I don't invest and try only to get somehow qualified as fourth to have the idiots of the below leagues and then next season to win the CL.
Under all it makes fun I'm just on the finding to keep the fun on one hand and not to become the big spender for Noredeus on the other hand.

@Pricop
I'm impressed, no word.

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I'm in this for about a year plus a bit, many of this I don't know however in some I see this could be an improvement if it is on again. The big drawbacks in this year for me was the new auction system, pure rubbish. And the next is in CL and Cup I have to play always against oponents of higher leagues but I'm not allowed to buy on these markets (which would provide me up to 119% player same as he can do instead of only 99% players). This is a clear swindle Nordeus wants to sell this a feature that all the zealous managers are challenged > in fact you're under compulsion either to give up the Cup's or to invest a plethora of green bricks,.....and that's the goal and too obvious. I think about to plan the seasons different one time I go for the league, next time I don't invest and try only to get somehow qualified as fourth to have the idiots of the below leagues and then next season to win the CL.
Under all it makes fun I'm just on the finding to keep the fun on one hand and not to become the big spender for Noredeus on the other hand.

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I do agree with you when you speak about the CUP and Champions League.

Again, for me CUP is still fine but I would like the system to put you sometimes at the highest level in the competition not only or almost always against opponents above your level.
Champions League should be straight about the same level and is same for League. Putting yourself against higher opponents always or almost always is clearly not fair and do not reflect the idea of investing, is actually against the idea of investing money into your account because you will only do worst for yourself.

@Bunzo, haha, good one!

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Champions League should be straight about the same level and is same for League. Putting yourself against higher opponents always or almost always is clearly not fair and do not reflect the idea of investing, is actually against the idea of investing money into your account because you will only do worst for yourself.

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yes, I agree to that.
For first time I was tanking when I was lv15.
At that period, the League draw was placing all the teams with the same quality in the same championship.
There were leagues with champions who had only 2*-3* players and I had to play only vs 6* teams.
Ok, I took the challenge for 1-2 seasons and then stopped.

Now I 'm doing that again (LV30- season 37)
My CH.L. draw was every time vs +1 level teams.
I took the challenge again, I won 1 CH.L and 1 Nivea cup and stopped.
It's my 4th season of tanking now, I have gathered some thousands tokens and greens but not spending anything,
Just play for fun some Cup and asso games.

I just keep "playing" for the social part of T11, this forum, some fb groups, some friends.

To the original question:

Freaking good question! Coz i'm silly? :eek:

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To the original question:

Freaking good question! Coz i'm silly? :eek:

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@Gabez Teh, I will take it as a YES, you silly ;) (joking)

@Nik, you have no idea how much I find myself at the moment in your words ...

But for normal answer sake or something:

-New TM system would be nice (like the 4min rush) with only from your level, i don't care worldwide JUST ONLY from your level MAX.-> from -2 to +2 level
for example: -1 (from your POV 4* player counting as FIVE at her/him) and -2 (for 3* player)
and You can't recognize real nordgens anymore :( or am i still missing something?

-bring back 30-50 daily bags plz! I CAN'T even farm 15-18 daily... it's a shame...

-Asso is too random (silly expression because random itself is too random)!

That's it for now :)

yeah after these i'm silly for sure :)

Good post OP.

Why do I play.... There were a few seasons where the competitions was so fierce that I couldn't believe how fun it was to be involved in such races. And in CL and Cup, I went into the semifinals almost all the time, and losing into the final game so many times in both competitions.... aaaargh ;p But I also won them a few times, which were always awesome feelings.

However, I'm not a fan of the fact that players lose so much their capability of improvement at an early age, like 24-25 y.o I believe. I'm not like many of you with infinite number of green packs and I don't have the time to train my players that much so I need to refresh my team too often. I would like to keep my players longer. And I don't like the new TM for the same reasons players already listed in this thread.

And the Cup draw.... I spent a lot of times last season to build an interesting team for this season, and I'm rewarded by playing against teams one level higher than me. Make all this preparation a bit pointless.

Mourinho fc is too difficult to score a goal against, yet alone defeat him.
But ive noticed dat d difference in d skills of all his players is not more than 20%

For instance, if he has a striker with shooting of 160% as his highest skill, d lowest skill of dat striker which can 4 example be tackling will be 140%.all other skills will fall in between 140-160%.and this is d same for all his players.

I wonder if dis is d reason why his team is invincible

Just been waiting for the day Nordeus will learn something from this Forum

and gone making this a steady Topgame without loads of bugs

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Good Points Of View Bro'

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Mourinho fc is too difficult to score a goal against, yet alone defeat him.
But ive noticed dat d difference in d skills of all his players is not more than 20%

For instance, if he has a striker with shooting of 160% as his highest skill, d lowest skill of dat striker which can 4 example be tackling will be 140%.all other skills will fall in between 140-160%.and this is d same for all his players.

I wonder if dis is d reason why his team is invincible

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Mourinho is quite a mistery because for some teams he appears as 7,8 stars and for others 4 stars so is kinda silly and I don't know, well nobody knows how on earth he works.

Is clearly that his players run a very poor moral, you can see this from possession but still somehow most of the times he manage to beat you.

On this topic I opened a thread a while ago https://forum.topeleven.com/top-elev...-mourinho.html and admin joined too so any constructive comment might motivate Top Eleven developers to make Mourinho more interactive for all of us.

Funny Moments like this:
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Is that for real?? WTF

Those 'T' : "Easy comes easy goes" :p