How many troll results you had this season ?

[Joe67]

A 105% q team is abandoned and last of your League ?
Something I miss here.

In the beginning of the thread, I said that a q difference less than 20% doesn't give a troll result.
Maybe this difference has increased.

Also the combinations of which of the managers are present and how this affect the game play, is interesting.

Yep, exactly.
I presume that the opponent wasn't connected anymore, no longer trains his team which had very bad condition and he was last of league with just one draw point. And, SUDDENLY his team get big result (he wasn't online but had changed the time of match, so I presume that he had train his team properly before the match, maybe because he s my league for about 10 seasons now and we don't really like each other).
So, that's what I mean also, that is not fair. We work every day for every season, and a guy who just come time to time can do a big result, EVEN MORE a troll result.

About what you say about average quality, do you say that if I decrease my team quality to have less then 20% difference, I have a chance to avoid troll results ?

[Iridensys]

Today 2 troll results (2-3, 0-2), in league and in champions against weaker team (15%), and opponent manager was absent as usual.

Thanks Nordeus.

A season in the toilet in one day.

[khris]

All these scores show that I was quite right when I said that when we don't attend the simulation becomes more stable and don't raises variability in the scenarios, covering/ doing a high distance AvQ guarantee ...

So I bet that this maybe, could cover 2/3 of the distance inside the beatability margin... (the "stability" inside a scenario where u aren't attending"..

so, let's say, time ago 30% was the margin... and a abandoned team could overcome us, staying inside -20%....
So now, the formula should be, 60% margin beatability, so, if manager don't attend till a 40% should be covered for the one that don't attend..

and "covered" in terms of scenario too should be defined... as it isn't "implacable" but as the margin is wider than before the effect changes in our perception...

PS:
I mean, all is proportional, and the "don't raises variability in the scenarios" is for the non active/attending team who have a % of security at certain scenarios....

[funker]

this sh*t is out of control... i understand, 1, 2, 3 trolls...i didn't said anything, but this season trolls are just going on and on and on... wtf happened with this game? that's the direction they're going? i just wanna know so i don't bother anymore... i train, i do max bonuses, max morale, i got 3-4 supporters and i get trashed by a ****in' 25% weaker team who's not even online. i humiliated a 115% manager who was online both matches 3-0 and 5-1 and i can't beat pathetic teams... i'm not mad because i'm losing, i'm mad with the way i'm losing. i have 5-6 misses that normally are goals and he scores 2 goals from 3 shots. this is not normal. this is pure bull****. f*ck off nordeus, we want the old version back!

[khris]

this sh*t is out of control... i understand, 1, 2, 3 trolls...i didn't said anything, but this season trolls are just going on and on and on... wtf happened with this game? that's the direction they're going? i just wanna know so i don't bother anymore... i train, i do max bonuses, max morale, i got 3-4 supporters and i get trashed by a ****in' 25% weaker team who's not even online. i humiliated a 115% manager who was online both matches 3-0 and 5-1 and i can't beat pathetic teams... i'm not mad because i'm losing, i'm mad with the way i'm losing. i have 5-6 misses that normally are goals and he scores 2 goals from 3 shots. this is not normal. this is pure bull****. f*ck off nordeus, we want the old version back!

simply,
when the margins went wide, the "security" introduced to stabilize the matches when we don't attend has become wide and more perceptive and, keeping the stars system exactly in the same point, +increase the other margins, causes, that in terms of perception, this margin/stabilization inside the scenario that the non active managers had, now "seems more wide than before, but is a perception", because this was made proportionally (or at least is my theory/guess...)

So this as said, is the effect of, keep same standards for players, market etc... + eliminate skill limits and increase the margin... increasing, the factor "security" that was inside some distance in the 1vs1... and now basically has been doubled.

[a.gavrilin]

this sh*t is out of control... i understand, 1, 2, 3 trolls...i didn't said anything, but this season trolls are just going on and on and on... wtf happened with this game? that's the direction they're going? i just wanna know so i don't bother anymore... i train, i do max bonuses, max morale, i got 3-4 supporters and i get trashed by a ****in' 25% weaker team who's not even online. i humiliated a 115% manager who was online both matches 3-0 and 5-1 and i can't beat pathetic teams... i'm not mad because i'm losing, i'm mad with the way i'm losing. i have 5-6 misses that normally are goals and he scores 2 goals from 3 shots. this is not normal. this is pure bull****. f*ck off nordeus, we want the old version back!

Mate, I feel your pain. You've just mentioned in your posts all my thoughts.

We should not deny the fact that the engine has changed a lot recently. Now it feels more like an engine of their France,England,etc tours/challenges where skills and team don't matter anything but the game is just a pure random troll.

Today's example of the France tour - I'm winning 0-3 against 7th team till the 78th min. AI scores on 78, 87 and 89th min leading the game to extra time and pen. and I lose the penalties as the first 5 shots by both teams were successfull and as the 6th player the game automatically put my worst player DL who had 5.2 morale so he logically misses his shot.

So what I want to say is that during last seasons I have exactly the same experience in other competitions like league,cup etc. When you are leading the match like 0-2 and then opponent-bot scores 3 goals in the last minutes.

It actually feels like they now brought their events engine to the ordinary game and as a result, like in these events sometimes you can easily win against 50% better team but at the same time lose to 50% worse. And if anyone says that tactics matter - I have huge experience of 59 seasons in this game and I can really confirm that previously counter-systems were making your result. Currently (especially judging by the events experience) you can play 4 matches against same opponent with exactly the same tactics and orders and in 2 matches you will win 5-0 and 6-0 and in other 2 matches you will lose 0-3 and 0-2 (This is my personal experience).

So I really hope there is any way to deliver this info to Nordeus but I doubt they will ever listen

[funker]

and how is that fair? why should i boost my team to 120% if i know FOR SURE that i'm gonna lose with 70-80% teams? on my other account i have a normal team, 103% and exactly the same **** happens... so no matter how good your team is, you're trolled big time. why should i play this game anymore if the developers are encouraging this bull****? updates after updates but nothing changed. top100 asso is the same, tankers still tank, trolls are twice more often... this is more than screwed up.

[khris]

and how is that fair? why should i boost my team to 120% if i know FOR SURE that i'm gonna lose with 70-80% teams? on my other account i have a normal team, 103% and exactly the same **** happens... so no matter how good your team is, you're trolled big time. why should i play this game anymore if the developers are encouraging this bull****? updates after updates but nothing changed. top100 asso is the same, tankers still tank, trolls are twice more often... this is more than screwed up.

At least despite the amount of rage that this issue with the scores, and non understanding of what is happening inside a match/how control it causes, we try to keep here in the forum the knowledge and reasons of, why this happens (and where we come from, how it worked, and each step introduced that finally created this situation) so people can come here, and complain with a valid argument that comes from the comprehension of why this happens

Now we only can ask for a rollback.
Skill limits again.
Closed beatability margins again.
Recalibration of high scores, as they were time ago.

Still, doing a deep meditation about this, some ideas came to my mind to keep the actual changes, and eliminate partially this wide variability in the scores that have no sense... but as this game is very fan of recovering old features, I prefeer see a rollback in the 3 steps I mentioned.

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[funker]

At least despite the amount of rage that this issue with the scores, and non understanding of what is happening inside a match/how control it causes, we try to keep here in the forum the knowledge and reasons of, why this happens (and where we come from, how it worked, and each step introduced that finally created this situation) so people can come here, and complain with a valid argument that comes from the comprehension of why this happens

Now we only can ask for a rollback.
Skill limits again.
Closed beatability margins again.
Recalibration of high scores, as they were time ago.

Still, doing a deep meditation about this, some ideas came to my mind to keep the actual changes, and eliminate partially this wide variability in the scores that have no sense... but as this game is very fan of recovering old features, I prefeer see a rollback in the 3 steps I mentioned.

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hahaha you're funny. you think nordeus will ever gonna do that? they don't care...they'll bring us more pathetic challenges like this france crap, they'll screw up the game even more with every update and they're gonna end up losing most of the old managers...

[milpol]

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