How many troll results you had this season ?

[nikolgiorgos]

Sorry guys but how about to make some useful tool for the devs here in the forum ?

The latest months the whole forum became a vent thread, every one who had a bad result, is starting a post but we can’t have some conclusion from that.
It’s a little chaotic.
I was saying always that there are troll/fixed/bad luck , whatever results in T11 but it’s not more than 1-2, max 3 in a season.
Has something changed ?

I like from you to post here any abnormal result you had and spot if there are more than 2 in one season.

It seems that there is a demon in games with 70-30 ball possession, oppo manager absent, oppo super GK and weird shot efficiency.
So let’s see how many are they ?
When I 'm saying troll result, means loosing from a team much weaker, more than 20% quality, usually with an absent manager.
Or sometimes a draw with a very weak abandoned- bot team.
It's not has to do with the statistics of the game or the final score or the rates of the players or if something weird happened in the game (for example oppo scored after a red card). We know that many times those things are just a bad visualization.
It's only about the final result.

I ‘m talking only for official games from League/ Champions-Super league and Cup.
Let’s leave outside the associations games.
In associations we have a different calculation, maybe some factors are different (for example the training bonus or the giving bonus from other members or the support from group-mates). Also we see very often the roulette effect. Black in one game- red in the other.
But more important is that usually in associations our opponents have same quality with us so it cannot be a troll result.

Please focus to this subject and not others (like the new action system or whatever).
I ‘m gonna clean this thread from non relative posts.
Thanks

[ronnymvc]

100% goals/shots , with one ST???

[madflo19]

Already 2 in 7 league matches,but for my opponents
What if I am tanking and i play wall formation with all players in wrong positions,what if my gk is in st position and st as gk (st with 8 saves in 2 games loool)
Shoot efficiency and saves,those are the key stats of the game (oh,you can't do nothing to improve them as a manager)


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[Ozz]

My second team today too in CL



Both team is weaker than mine and I won first match without any problem. And no managers on the match as you can see... Bonuses and other like training and high morale means nothing now?

[ibangali]

Trolling is really painful when its happen with bot or inactive team







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[ronnymvc]

I consider it troll due to quality difference between teams ...

[MiddleEarth]

Nice thread, thanks Nik for opening it. I must admit, I do have almost an academic paper about getting trolled, but I'm a stats freak. On your marks, get ready, go:

Season 2:
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GameID 12 (CL, Group Phase, Game 3):

Quality Diff: +36%

Possession:
73% - 27%

Total shots H/A:
19 - 6

on target:
9 -2

efficiency:
10% - 50%

Result 1-1 @home vs. -26%


GameID 47 (CL, Final):

Quality Diff: +24%

Possession:
60% - 40%

Total shots H/A:
25 - 12

on target:
12 -4

efficiency:
17% - 50%

2-2 FT/ET, lost 2-4 after shootout, CL gone!!!

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Season 3:
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GameID 32 (CL, 1/8 Finals return leg, 1-2 away loss in the 1st leg):

Quality DIff: -6.5%

Possession:
64% - 36%

Total shots H/A:
21 - 9

on target:
9 -3

efficiency:
22% - 67%

2-2 FT out of CL...

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Season 4:
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GameID 14 (CL, Group Stage, 4th round):

Quality Diff: +17.6%

Possession:
37% - 63%

Total shots H/A:
6 - 22

on target:
4 - 13

efficiency:
50% - 15%

1-1 away draw

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Season 5:
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GameID 8 (CL, Group Stage, 2nd Matchday):

Quality Diff: +38.8%

Possession:
34% - 66%

Total shots H/A:
12 - 22

on target:
2 - 9

efficiency:
50% - 11%

1-1 away draw

GameID 32 (League, 17th Matchday):

1st vs 3rd Quality Diff: +16.6%

Possession:
67% - 33%

Total shots H/A:
15 - 5

on target:
7 - 3

efficiency:
14% - 67%

result: 1-2 home loss,
almost cost us the title, but we've won against the 2nd placed team
away two rounds to go and sealed the League title...

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Season 6:
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GameID 1 (Cup, 1st stage, first leg away):

Quality diff -7.9%, -2 levels

Possession:
42% - 58%

Total shots H/A:
14 - 23

on target:
4 - 7

efficiency:
75% - 29%

3-2 away loss. Won the 2nd leg 3-0 and advanced further...


GameID 15 (League, 7th Matchday):

Quality diff: +37.2%

Possession:
65% - 35%

Total shots H/A:
26 - 13

on target:
10 - 4

efficiency:
30% - 75%

Result: 3-3 at home after a 3-1 until minute 86, 3-2 86th, 3-3 89th...

GameID 42 (League, 21st Matchday):

Quality diff: +32.3%

Possession:
60% - 40%

Total shots H/A:
21 - 11

on target:
8 - 3

efficiency:
25% - 67%

2-2 home draw after leading 2-0 ...

We still won the league title, somehow...

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Season 7:
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GameID 3: (CL, Group Stage, 1st Matchday)

Quality diff: +16.9%

Possession:
32% - 68%

Total shots H/A:
9 - 18

on target:
2 - 8

efficiency:
0% - 0%

0-0 away draw ...

GameID 21: (Cup, 1/4 Finals 1st leg):

Quality diff: -8.4%, -1 level

Possession:
59% - 41%

Total shots H/A:
19 - 10

on target:
10- 4

efficiency:
10% - 75%

1-3 home loss. Won 3-1 away, but lost on penalty shooutout, out of the Cup.....


GameID 31: (League, 15th Matchday):

Quality diff: 18.4% 2nd vs 3rd

Possession:
62% - 38%

Total shots H/A:
22 - 16

on target:
9 - 6

efficiency:
11% - 83%

1-5 home loss, highest home defeat ever, and say good bye to the league title...

GameID 34: (League, 17th Matchday):

Quaility diff: +16.8%

Possession:
69% - 31%

Total shots H/A:
16 - 7

on target:
11 - 2

efficiency:
11% - 83%

1-1 home draw ...

GameID 44: (League, 24th Matchday):

Quality diff: +22.3%

Possession:
76% - 24%

Total shots H/A:
17 - 8

on target:
7 - 1

efficiency:
14% - 100%

1-1 home draw ...

GameID 45: (CL, Final):

Quality diff: -4.9% -1 level

Possession:
35% - 65%

Total shots H/A:
10 - 21

on target:
5 - 9

efficiency:
40% - 11%

2-1 loss in the 88th minute, say goodbye to the Champions League as well...

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Season 8:
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GameID 7: (CL, Group Stage, 2nd Matchday):

Quality diff: +19.8%

Possession:
66% - 34%

Total shots H/A:
22- 12

on target:
12 - 4

efficiency:
16% - 50%

2-2 home draw after leading 2-0, again? coincidence?

GameID 21: (Cup, 1/4 finals, 1st leg away):

Quality diff: -11.3%, -1 level

Possession:
35% - 65%

Total shots H/A:
11 - 19

on target:
2 - 8

efficiency:
50% - 0%

1-0 away loss, 84th minute.

GameID 29: (Cup, 1/4 finals, 2nd leg home):

Quality diff: -10.8%, -1 level

Possession:
61% - 39%

Total shots H/A:
24 - 12

on target:
10 -3

efficiency:
20% - 67%

2-2 home draw, eliminated from the Cup with combined shots of 43-23, with 18-5 on target,
with an opponent efficiency of 60% over both legs...

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Season 9:
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GameID 1 (Cup, 1st stage 1st leg away):

Quality diff: +20.8%

Possession:
38% - 62%

Total shots H/A:
11 - 23

on target:
3 -8

efficiency:
33% - 12%

1-1 away draw, won the return leg 3-0...

GameID 3 (League, 1st Matchday):

Quality diff: +15.3%

Possession:
64% - 36%

Total shots H/A:
18 - 11

on target:
11-4

efficiency:
9% - 50%

1-2 home loss, good start into the new season ...

GameID 18 (Cup, 1/8 finals 2nd leg at home, won away leg 3-1):

Quality diff: -6%, -1 level

Possession:
60% - 40%

Total shots H/A:
23 - 16

on target:
12-3

efficiency:
0% - 100%

0-3 home loss, was there, saw that crap, other manager didn't even bother to show up.
Once again, say goodbye to win the Cup...

Season Summary, Cup out as described above, lost the title with 1 point behind the winner,
see first season league match,
and on top of that also lost the CL Final on penalty ****ing-shootouts...

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Season 10:
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GameID 10 (League, 4th Matchday):

Quality diff +45.6% up against bottom feeder, hold your horses!!!

Possession:
20% - 80%

Total shots H/A:
6 - 24

on target:
1-14

efficiency:
0% - 0%

0-0 away draw against the dead last team within the leageu.
again, saw it, couldn't believe it, but it was for real. Oh, yes, tactics, I've had 6 offensive players attacking at some point
after switching formations like an asshole...

GameID 16 (CL, Group Stage, 4th Matchday, 2-0 away win in the first leg, same tactics...)

Quality diff: +19.8%, same level

Possession:
71% - 29%

Total shots H/A:
22- 6

on target:
7-2

efficiency:
29% - 100%

2-2 home draw...

GameID 23 (League, 11th Matchday):

Quality diff: +7.4%

Possession:
67% - 33%

Total shots H/A:
19- 12

on target:
7-4

efficiency:
14% - 75%

1-3 home loss...

GameID 25 (League, 12th Matchday):

Quality diff: +13.6%

Possession:
35% - 65%

Total shots H/A:
6 - 17

on target:
1 - 6

efficiency:
100% - 17%

1-1 away draw...

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.. short while after against an opponent with equal quality

Game 26 (Cup, 1/8 finals return leg, lost 1st leg 2-1):

Possesion:
54% - 46%

Total shots H/A:
22 - 15

on target:
8 - 4

efficiency:
25% - 75%

2-3 home loss ...

GameID 27 (League, 13th Matchday):

Possesion:
56% - 44%

Total shots H/A:
19 - 13

on target:
6 - 4

efficiency:
33% - 75%

yet, another 2-3 home loss, this time around after leading twice
and the opponent scoring the winning goal in the 90th minute

say goodbye to the Cup and League title, hold your horses, still more to come...

GameID 34 (CL, 1/4 finals 1st leg):

Quality: -4.3%, -1 level

Possesion:
55% - 45%

Total shots H/A:
18 - 12

on target:
9 - 4

efficiency:
11% - 75%

1-3 home loss, say goodbye to the CL too!!! 1-1 away draw in the 2nd leg was fruitless...

No league title, no CL title, no Cup title, nothing, nada, zip...

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Season 11:
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GameID 12 (CL, Group Stage, 3rd Matchday):

Quality: -4.7%, -1 level

Possesion:
39% - 61%

Total shots H/A:
11 - 21

on target:
3 - 9

efficiency:
33% - 11%

1-1 away draw, despite being all over them, well, nothing new...


GameID 15: (League, 7th Matchday):

Quality: +11.4%

Possesion:
59% - 41%

Total shots H/A:
24 - 11

on target:
12 - 2

efficiency:
0% - 0%

0-0 home draw, oh well...

GameID 23: (League, 11th Matchday):

Quality diff: 31.4% away, vs 11th placed team:

Possesion:
33% - 67%

Total shots H/A:
9 - 24

on target:
2 - 11

efficiency:
0% - 0%

0-0 away draw, and say good bye to the league title, well done!!!

GameID 27 (CL, 1/8 finals 1st leg at home):

Quality: +4.1%, -1 level

Possesion:
60% - 40%

Total shots H/A:
18 - 9

on target:
7 - 3

efficiency:
14% - 67%

1-2 home loss. We've made up for this **** with a 3-0 away win...


GameID 30: (League, 15th Matchday):

Quality diff: +9.3%

Possesion:
62% - 38%

Total shots H/A:
14 - 5

on target:
6 - 2

efficiency:
0% - 50%

0-1 home loss to the league leader and winner afterwards, winning goal 81st minute...


GameID 40: (Cup, 1/4 finals 1st leg away):

Quality diff: -10.2%, -1 level

Possesion:
48% - 52%

Total shots H/A:
14 - 15

on target:
6 - 8

efficiency:
50% - 0%

3-0 away loss, out of the Cup again, despite winning the home return leg by 4-1...

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Total times getting trolled: 34 which is 7.3% out of 466 total matches played, alone 22 of them have come
while playing at home (64.7%), and just 12 have been while playing away (35.3%)

Overall team performance stats:

Total matches played: 466
Total matches won: 373 (80.04%)
Total matches drawn: 51 (10.94%)
Total matches lost: 42 (9.01%)
Total goals scored: 1683
Total goals allowed: 323
Total goal difference: 1360

Home matches played: 232 (49.79%)
Home matches won: 190 (81.9%)
Home matches drawn: 22 (9.48%)
Home matches lost: 20 (8.62%)
Home goals scored: 879
Home goals allowed: 163
Home goals differnce: 716

Away matches played: 234 (50.21%)
Away matches won: 183 (78.21%)
Away matches drawn: 29 (12.39%)
Away matches lost: 22 (9.40%)
Away goals scored: 804
Away goals allowed: 160
Away goals difference: 644

Up until season 11, season 12 underway, 1 troll already, more to come...

END OF ROUNDABOUT!!!

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[ibangali]

Bravo MiddleEarth

You should change your signature and put my signature as yours too

Shoot efficiency and saves,those are the key stats of the game (oh,you can't do nothing to improve them as a manager)

Indeed and game engine take that advantage against managers

Following report might not consider as troll but why some time opp goalkeeper become monstar
I can't remember the link or thread name, nik once analyze one of his tanking time and concluded that GK is not a team player, GK is a individual player inside the team [forgive me if I stated wrong but something like that he stated]

[pcmacdaniel]

That's the only bizarre result so far this season.

Both managers attended match, but I had 15% possession bonus (I think).

Context: Was basically a meaningless game as we had 9 points from first 3 matches, and that draw clinched round of 16 birth, and opponent was in survival mode. Not sure if that matters, but sometimes I wonder if the engine is designed to tighten up races?

[KenoticFC]

I always had troll results but this season in the league is a new level. I'm honestly not motivated to play despite being only 3 points from the 1st place.
First match against an active contender team won 2-0
Second match against miserable abandoned team 1-1 draw (this team trolled 2 other active managers)
Third match 2-1 struggled win against abandoned team.
4th 2-3 loss against active lower level team (I'm not counting this)
5th match I had the most unsatisfying victory in my Te career a 2-1 win against a 50 rated team full of veterans. Seriously despite the 80% possession and other stats. I consider this a troll result despite winning
6th match did not attend and won 5-0 (Evidence for my theory that TE rewards non-players)
7th match 4-1 loss against non active team worst troll ever. 100% shot efficiency from the opp, I stopped attending after 40 minutes I didn't care anymore.

So 3 trolls in 7 matches. Even the victories have been so unsatisfying