How many troll results you had this season ?

[Kelpie Grant]

So I was eliminated in the cup by a double troll. My team is 105%, opponent is 76%. I lost 2-0 the first game, then won 3-2 the second. In the second game, I was up 3-0, then suddenly my striker gets a red card followed by 2 goals. Over the course of the two games, my free kick taker couldn't score a single goal, despite scoring them most of the time and every corner where my player received the ball or side free-kick (which normally go in) failed for some reason. I am at a loss for words. I joined the game to have fun, play around with tactics and learn to win, but this game has been frustrating. If I am going to lose, I want to lose against a strong team that outplayed me, not because the teams decided to make me lose. At that point, there really is no challenge, just dumb luck.

I was very disappointed to see the game has gotten more jingles but the engine remains rubbish (I lost the league last season because I lost 3 games to teams that were 15-25% weaker than mine).

I took up PES a couple of months ago because I wanted to find a real football simulation and, in all honesty, it is a much better game. You play when you want to play, there doesn't seem to always be a cash grab, graphics are better, tactics are effective and I have only experienced 4 games where I was surprised by the result. In two of those games, the opponent used the same team so I adjusted and that tactic hasn't given me anymore trouble. I haven't yet experienced the frustration of being cheated out of a trophy or game (being up 3-0 and then being on the losing end of a 4-3 defeat for example).

In top eleven, I have felt cheated out of victories about 75% of the time. I lost the only two league when I lost to the second placed team (which was 15%+ weaker and also lost 2 other games to teams 25%+ weaker - meanwhile, they only had 1 other troll). In associations, I have cheated other teams out of victories, even when I completely bungled my my tactics. I once played 5 midfielder 1 AMC and 4 Striker and won 3-1. What nonsense! I have no hard feelings losing to a team that is 10%+ stronger or losing to a team 10% weaker on a fluke, but having your season ruined because the game engine MAKES a 20%+ weaker teams win is ludicrous and simply not fun. You don't have a tactics game anymore, you are just rolling die.

Before people say I don't know how to play and I am just gripping, I believe the stats speak for themselves:

I am level 21.



To Nordeus - Be better. Give players the game they deserve, not the garbage currently available.

Your stats dont necessarily show you can play well , just show you might have spent shedloads of money. Stop whining or just go away.