18 years old with 1% abilities?

[rogerniceguy]

All those top100 teams are doing tricks, staying season, mutation, buying and selling from their teams , jump in or out of their group every weekend.
But still nordeus rewards them with 100-200 more tokens every season.
Stop mutants or loans is not enough.
Reduce the reward for platinum to 50T, remove the reward for world top50, give Token for legaue winners.

Bang on

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[Damian Ogłaza]

All those top100 teams are doing tricks, staying season, mutation, buying and selling from their teams , jump in or out of their group every weekend.
But still nordeus rewards them with 100-200 more tokens every season.
Stop mutants or loans is not enough.

Sad but true

[Gobobo]

Sad but true

Depressing but in accordance with fact or reality.

[Spartan117]

Mutant trick is closed

What's happening here is what javert89 stated in his post.

They're upselling, so many different white skills have a very high value, such as 300%, despite the player being 18 years old. Closing of the mutant trick only affects values about 340%.

If a 70% team is able to beat a 130% team with this trick then it means the 340% cap was not a good solution, so in essence mutant trick still works

[Altiplano]

If a 70% team is able to beat a 130% team with this trick then it means the 340% cap was not a good solution, so in essence mutant trick still works

Which raises the question "are we training our players correctly?"
If 100% (6stars) is taken as the standard quality for a player to be able to perform well at our level should we be ignoring some of the white skills for each individual player?
For example: if your team plays 2 strikers should 1 be heavily biased towards positioning, heading and creative skills in order to feed assists to the other striker with a bias towards shooting, finishing and strength? Likewise with 2 central midfielders, shouldn't 1 be focused on defence whilst the other is more geared towards attack?
It's just a thought, and like everything about this game, the truth is.........we know nothing.

[112000]

Which raises the question "are we training our players correctly?"
If 100% (6stars) is taken as the standard quality for a player to be able to perform well at our level should we be ignoring some of the white skills for each individual player?
For example: if your team plays 2 strikers should 1 be heavily biased towards positioning, heading and creative skills in order to feed assists to the other striker with a bias towards shooting, finishing and strength? Likewise with 2 central midfielders, shouldn't 1 be focused on defence whilst the other is more geared towards attack?
It's just a thought, and like everything about this game, the truth is.........we know nothing.

I agree that there are a lot of things I don't know.
But I'm pretty sure this: equal quality, if I train my player to balance all white skills, it's definitely wrong, they don't stand a chance against unbalance training (some really high, some really low).

[pcmacdaniel]

If a 70% team is able to beat a 130% team with this trick then it means the 340% cap was not a good solution, so in essence mutant trick still works

The problem here is that the player has a white stat and gray average that is impossible to reach at such a young age. It's not that the player has several skills between 300% and 340%. 300%+ skills through the normal training process is fine. Upselling causes player at the age of 18 years old to have a 200%+ white skills average with a 1% gray skew on an 18 year old. That's impossible without upselling. But having 200%+ white skills average w/ a 1% skew on an older player is normal.

The problem with upselling is that NOT ALL managers have this option. If I only own one account, their is no way for me to keep pace with a manager that has access to several accounts, all close in level and on the same server. It doesn't matter how many packs I save by farming; how many tokens I buy, their is no way to neutralize that advantage.

[USARABAT]

this top is rich with challenging questions and brilliant ideas and I hope it continues...


This player is definitely a 3* player from the academy/ auction who was signed / purchased and then sold to another account who is two/three levels above and then boosted quickly to look like this. I am not about his effectiveness because I've seen players with 125% scoring only a little ...

The question that came to my mind regarding the player above which probably have been subject to upselling is

( I don't have time to do the calculations but one of you might and see if this process is really worth it or no )

: how many tokens and how many rests and how much time are needed to create such player and does this process really worth ... ?


P.S. Those who are complaining about it are looking at the process as cheating and wants it to be prohibited. I ask you to look at it from a different perspective ... the amount of tokens/ rests and time needed to create such 1 player only out of 11 proves that the manager is really hardworking and ambitious and really deserves being in one of the top 100 associations / 500 best managers in the world.

[Spartan117]

this top is rich with challenging questions and brilliant ideas and I hope it continues...


I question came to my mind regarding the player mentioned at the first place which might have been subject to upselling,,,

( I don't have time to do the calculations but one of you might have to find the answer and see if this process is really worth it or no )

the question is : how many tokens and how many rests and how much time is needed to create such player and move it from one team to another ... ?


P.S. Those who are complaining about it are looking at the process as cheating and wants it to be prohibited. I ask you to look at it from a different perspective ... the amount of tokens/ rests and time needed to create such 1 player only out of 11 proves that the manager is really hardworking and ambitious and really deserves being in top 100 associations / 500 best managers in the world.

It's cheating irrespective of the effort put into it it's against the rules. Read through the rules and you will find it

[USARABAT]

upselling is against the rules ?