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    Take a look at the pictures of two of my players bellow . One of them , Ciprian Lupu is a player from my own academy , the good one , it costed me some tokens , I don't remember exactly how much . The other one , A. Ahman , I bought from the transfer list , his quality was only 40% but his value was extremly high , that was the reason I bought him. It costed around 40 millions , when other players of his age and quality costed only 33-35 milions .

    As you can see from the pictures , both players have same quality now , they play on the same positions ( the difference is the one is ML and other MR ) , they have both legs , and special ability . But the value and wage of one of them is bigger .

    I have also mace the following test . I powertrained both of them in the same time with the goalkeeper training method and as you can see from the picture one of them , the "superfast" trainer , gained 13% quality when the other one only 10% .Good Trainers?-img_1946.jpgGood Trainers?-img_1947.jpgGood Trainers?-img_1948.jpgGood Trainers?-img_1949.jpgGood Trainers?-img_1950.jpg
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    I think we all can agree that the academy players that cost tokens is a fast trainer . I just wanted to point out that there are players that can train faster .
    If I remember correctly there is a post on this forum about two recommended players ( example is similar to mine ) . The market value of one of them was bigger and some people came to the conclusion that the one with the bigger market value is fast trainer and the other one is a slow trainer . I think both of them are fast trainer and one of them is even faster . That's all what i wanted to point out .
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    Of course there are young slow trainers but I agree with @Rebelsunited that there are two categories of ft.
    I call them 1st and 2nd class. The 2nd class needs about a +20% of greens for the same progress.
    A T academy can be both, most of the times the 14T is 1st and the 10 is 2nd.
    In higher levels, I also have seen 1st and 2nd class with the higher value
    Example here https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-58.html
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    I don't agree with the example (pic) of @Rebelsunited in the point that from one only training (specially with this GK trick) we cannot be sure from that result.
    We need at least 5-6 training results to be sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    Of course there are young slow trainers but I agree with @Rebelsunited that there are two categories of ft.
    I call them 1st and 2nd class. The 2nd class needs about a +20% of greens for the same progress.
    A T academy can be both, most of the times the 14T is 1st and the 10 is 2nd.
    In higher levels, I also have seen 1st and 2nd class
    Example here https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...ainers-58.html
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    I don't agree with the example (pic) of @Rebelsunited in the point that from one only training (specially with this GK trick) we cannot be sure from that result.
    We need at least 5-6 training results to be sure.
    But the market value I think is a good indicator !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelsunited View Post
    But the market value I think is a good indicator !
    hmmm, not in higher levels.
    For example there are two values.
    105 & 106 or 126 & 127 in my level now.
    The 106 M' can be 1st or 2nd class, the 105 M' can be 2nd or slow.
    So you have to buy two players and make some training to be sure who is the 1st.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    hmmm, not in higher levels.
    For example there are two values.
    105 & 106 or 126 & 127 in my level now.
    The 106 M' can be 1st or 2nd class, the 105 M' can be 2nd or slow.
    So you have to buy two players and make some training to be sure who is the 1st.
    But the 127 should be the best !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelsunited View Post
    But the 127 should be the best !
    at post #14 I gave an example from my guide.
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    It was not only one training , I've done it now just to prove my point . I have test it several times and with other players also .

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    I think they train equally until they reach 140%, and the difference between 1st and 2nd class can be spotted only after 140% quality .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelsunited View Post
    I think they train equally until they reach 140%, and the difference between 1st and 2nd class can be spotted only after 140% quality .
    Wrong

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