Taking all the fun out of the association tournament

So for at least a year now every season we get drawn against the same 1 or 2 teams and i am just about sick of it, tournament opponents should be random, i know theres other associations in gold 1 that are equal in strength to our association because weve played against them but it seems top eleven/nordeus just care about making money and not giving us enjoyment in what we have already and its just god damn laziness... so first question... is this happening to most associations, same teams for 4 weeks running in that season of association matches?

At one time we had members averaging 6-7 star squads and the first time we hit the platinum league we were pitted all 4 weeks against TURKISH LEGENDS whom would be a 10 star team if the last star was able to be shown although i think may have been banned and all i can say is good riddance as they were never playing fair.

Anyway.. we got pulverised 16-0 10-0 14-0 ect ect, 4 weeks out of 4 in that season of association matches playing them then relegated going back to gold division 1 again we are pitted against 9 star teams that would kill us but we battled hard and got lucky once or twice and this went on for months playing against associations 1 - 2 stars more stronger than ourselves.

Only way to have any fairness was for some of our members to tank to meet these teams on equal terms so we now have 9 star squads apart from our manager who is barely above 8 stars but hes level 60 at the very top of his server so tanking at the top wouldnt be worthwhile.

So far this is week 3 of the season and all 3 weeks pitted against the same team, its just boring, its suppose to be a tournament, i want to play different teams, its not just happening sometimes, its every season.

Last season we met the same team all 4 weeks and a team 3 out of the 4 weeks, the previous month similar, the same 2 opponents 4 weeks running, its tedious and if this is a tournament then stop being lazy and making us against the same opponent every week....ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

This is not a random draw at all and this needs to be fixed...if this has been mentioned before in the forum then i guess im bringing it up again as ive only just registered for the forum.

approved thread**

Sounds extremly weird, never saw sth like this or heard of it. I have been playing for 3 different assos, having hundreds of opponents and never the same. I think its a case for game support / mods.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Kto

Sounds extremly weird, never saw sth like this or heard of it. I have been playing for 3 different assos, having hundreds of opponents and never the same. I think its a case for game support / mods.

---

Yes extremely weird indeed, no variety in opponents just makes it so dull, ill play a 10 star association if i have to as long as its not the same association we've played for the 3rd week of 3 :( and the worse thing is there must be something wrong in the association function itself because this association has been fielding a starting 11 of 2 and 3 star players so on this occasion there strongest team in their association managed to be drawn against our manager who has the weakest team and that really is almost as good as cheating.

Usually if you field 11 3 star players and have all your 9 star players in the reserves your team still shows as 9 star but now its showing as 3 star so theres a flaw in the system... not sure if anybody else has noticed this... my opponents certainly did because that never happens where their strongest team plays our weakest..

I think associations draw shouldn't be organized by stars. It should be totally random. So some week you get lucky, next week u suck. It would sound more fair to me :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jadey

Yes extremely weird indeed, no variety in opponents just makes it so dull, ill play a 10 star association if i have to as long as its not the same association we've played for the 3rd week of 3 :( and the worse thing is there must be something wrong in the association function itself because this association has been fielding a starting 11 of 2 and 3 star players so on this occasion there strongest team in their association managed to be drawn against our manager who has the weakest team and that really is almost as good as cheating.

Usually if you field 11 3 star players and have all your 9 star players in the reserves your team still shows as 9 star but now its showing as 3 star so theres a flaw in the system... not sure if anybody else has noticed this... my opponents certainly did because that never happens where their strongest team plays our weakest..

---

approved post***

if the issue persists, just pm me. The system have some problems lately with some last registered users....

What the hell is the point of playing in associations, we went up to the platinum league after a few months staying in gold division 1 because soon as we are in platinum division we would be drawn again TURKISH LEGENDS or YOUNG TURKISH LEGENDS....

Suprise surprise last week we get drawn against young turkish legends and again tomorrow exactly the same... i contact nordeus who must be the rudest people in the world because ive never received a response... left them an email to reply to and got nothing back

This crap is ruining our entire association members enjoyment, why are we against the same teams week in week out, other associations get different teams every season and every season after that, we get the same cheats every week...

Now teams field a bunch of 3-5 star players so their strongest team gets to play our weakest team, hardly fair is it... TOPBOOM do this every week, getting sick of the same crap, NORDEUS HOW ABOUT YOU REPLY, MAYBE STOP MAKING US PLAY THE SAME OPPONENT EVERY WEEK IN ASSOCIATION GAMES

Pretty simple really , drop back to Gold 1. From what I have heard Platinum is a stinking cesspool of corruption so why would you want to play there. I am finding Gold 1 to be a decent place so far without any of the shenanigans of the Platinum level. I am thinking I will park the Asso in Gold 1 and stay there until such time as Platinum is cleaned up which will probably be the day after never.

Asso Fa is broken.

Sent from my SM-A800F using Tapatalk

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by John Grant

Pretty simple really , drop back to Gold 1. From what I have heard Platinum is a stinking cesspool of corruption so why would you want to play there. I am finding Gold 1 to be a decent place so far without any of the shenanigans of the Platinum level. I am thinking I will park the Asso in Gold 1 and stay there until such time as Platinum is cleaned up which will probably be the day after never.

---

We did this for the last 6 months maybe more because every time we went to the platinum division we would be drawn against turkish legends or young turkish legends and i am sure everybody who has played this game for more than a couple of years knows exactly who these dirty cheating turks are... turkish legends were the strongest team around out of the entire top eleven servers and were number 1 position in the association world rankings but as i can no longer find then im sure theyve been banned except young turkish legends were the second association so theyre actually still playing...

Anyway back to the point in question, even when we sat in gold division 1 for six or so months purposely losing week in week 4 of the association tourney to not get promoted even then for 2 months solid we were drawn against topboom and before then it was a different team.

5 of our low level members have to make sure we do not get promotion in the league just to stand a chance against young turkish legends and like last weekend we draw them first so the best we will do for the second week running is finish 3rd, nordeus have been contacted in regards to this flaw in our association system, we never get any response whatsoever.

All other associations get variety in the association draw week in week out, we get young turkish legends to whom we just lost 18-0 to.

So well done nordeus for removing the fun from 7 years of being loyal and playing daily to you just drawing us week in week out against the same team

it would be interesting to keep some records/pics of those repeated duels.
If you have, post some.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

it would be interesting to keep some records/pics of those repeated duels.
If you have, post some.

---

No problem at all i will load the screenshot of todays association, exactly the same draw as i talked about a week ago, bar one team that tends to change but 2 weeks in a row our first match is with young turkish legends and topboom is in the other semifinal

Attachment 96655Attachment 96656

I hope it has been done correctly, first screenshot is todays association match, second screenshot is the results from 7 days ago that u can see in the chat box showing the teams that are in the young turkish legends association.

The other association TOPBOOM whom manipulates the draw every chance they get, we played them last season every week, the season before again 2 teams repeatedly all 4 weeks of the season :( considering the time we have played, we feel pretty much cheated.

I will almost guarantee next week our first game will be against turkish legends so again we will be fighting for 3rd place and topboom will be there too, this has 100% made sure we have no chance in hell of obtaining the points needed to stay in platinum, its just a shame that 6 years of playing daily and this is how u are rewarded and sadly this has been happening to UNITED ALLSTARS for the last 1-2 year

Do you have also the other draws vs Turkish Legends ?

* hmm, I wonder how many 10* groups exist.
Maybe that's the reason you 're playing again and again.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

Do you have also the other draws vs Turkish Legends ?

* hmm, I wonder how many 10* groups exist.
Maybe that's the reason you 're playing again and again.

---

I dont i can only go as far back as the chat box shows results, dont think theres any way to get fixtures from months ago and the last turkish legends we played was when we was last in the platinum division so probably about 6 months ago when we was pitted against turkish legends and young turkish legends, i specifically recall we played 3 weeks against both turkish legends squads and the final week was young turkish legends on their own, in the 6 or so months after that last platinum encounter we were pitted against 1 or 2 same teams every association season, with that in mind i cannot remember names but we did play/see around 15 - 20 teams all with an average of 9 - 10 star teams so i know 100% theres enough teams to change our opponents every week

Ourselves are only this strong because all of us with the exception of the manager markyhfc have tanked because when we were just a 7-8 star average association we were still always pitted against ridiculous 10 star association namely turkish legends every platinum division visit so we would be forever losing 18-0 so we were forced to tank just to allow our association a chance to win some games

ok, it seems that you have the top quality in platinum so your draw every time is against the other groups with top q too.
So, what you can do ?

- See it as a challenge and try win them.
After all, you have enough q to face them.
Consider that there are many (real football) leagues with only two top-dogs every year for the championship (like REAL - BARCA).

- Promote to the next level for the next seasons and drop your q to 6*-7* - and face teams with that quality.

I supose that´s what you get with an Association full of Tankers......
I really did laugh out loud btw :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Bunzo

I supose that´s what you get with an Association full of Tankers......
I really did laugh out loud btw :)

---

Same here .I guess you reap what you sow.

lol guys
you are like sharks who smell blood :p

ok, first of all @jadey and all the others
you can't call someone (specific) as a cheater.
If someone is cheating, you can report him to nordeus and get banned.
So let's say that someone is a trickster or abusing the system or gets any advantage a weak part of it can gives.

For sure the game has some so what we can do is to protest (like my fan club is named ;) ), send reports and doing suggestions
(like those
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...s-project.html
https://forum.topeleven.com/suggesti...A-players.html )
instead of moaning or accusing each other,
so when nordeus decides to do something, to have some choices from the view of a player and not only some idea (:rolleyes:) of a dev.

Meanwhile, every manager must be able to understand what and how it's going on and do whatever is his choice.
I , for example, manipulate my season's draw so to avoid facing those tanking super-teams in my League or Cup.

* please stay on topic with a civilized way.

Sorry if i don't have any emphatic feelingz about your "problem" :rolleyes:

I'm against tanking and upselling and i would like (support the idea) Nordeus solve these nonsense b**** in the future! :)

(IRL i'm empathic guy btw...)

ok, that's a statement @gabez but we can have some more constructive dialogue hearing the other side.

For example, @jadey
You 're saying that nordeus taking all the fun from asso but at the same time you 're destroying the rest - lol
You aren't playing seriously in your League & the CH.L. and play vs - 30/40% quality opponents for the Cup.
So, where is the fun at this ?

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Gabez Teh

Sorry if i don't have any emphatic feelingz about your "problem" :rolleyes:

I'm against tanking and upselling and i would like (support the idea) Nordeus solve these nonsense b**** in the future! :)

(IRL i'm empathic guy btw...)

---

lol where we differ Gabez my friend is I have no empathy for guys who employ tactics like upselling and tanking then whine about other people doing it better than them.

Still those type of tactics are , if not a problem , certainly a blight on the game. For those that employ these type of "tactics" - good for you , exploit the situation but dont expect people like me to either like it or join you in doing it.

If some of you bothered reading the start of this you will realise i F***ING hate tanking too, our manager is level 50 something or 60 ish, and he was always the strongest team in the association, averaging 8 stars, the rest of us were 6 or 7 stars, and for some of you dummies you are too stupid to realise problems, the first time we got to the platimun we were pitted against turkish legends who were 10 stars and our complete average of the 6 teams in the association at the time were 7 stars so we were playing a team with 3 extra stars on every one of their members.

A one off okay we were unlucky but rather than play teams equal to us we would be drawn against them every week, in what way is that redeemed as fair play, this went on for a year, every platinum visit drawn against the strongest team who did get banned as they were cheats manipulating everything, but after all that time we were sick of being cheated by the system.

It was 4 or 5 months ago myself and 3 other members stopped playing for promotion in the league which we all hated but we put the association tourney first, i loved trying to win the champions league but because we opted to try and stay in the platinum league this was the sacrifice we made.

Like most of you i hate people that tank because they just want 10 star teams then win the league every season, we do not even with 10 star play for the league, and we do not beat the player sitting at top of the league out of spite, we play to lose all the league games so no other league players are affected by this so do not make judgements, if we were drawn against 7 star teams even 8 star teams when our average were 6-7 stars then fine but we would be drawn against the strongest teams ever week of the platinum, other 7 star associations meet equal and different associations week in week out, we get the same every week.

So imagine you play normally and you are getting this every week, you report it and we thought it was rectified then a month or 2 later it started again, so 5 of us agreed we will get as strong as these associations 3 stars above is to at least have a chance.

If you play the game every day winning leagues with your 6 star - 7 star teams then every week have to play 10 star associations, the same every week, hows that fair

It went on for a year if not more, so we do what, stop playing the association? why should we? why should our 7 star association not get to play exactly the same as the rest of you, an assortment of teams, the odd draw against a 9 star association is a challenge but to be drawn against them every week is just bullsh..so more than a year of being cheated by the system left us with one option, try and get our teams to 10 stars and beat them this way.

I do not care who we play but at least let us have an assortment of teams weekly, so we do not tank because we want to, we were forced too otherwise 18-0 losses in association draws weekly because a 7 star association repeatedly pitted against 10 star... you do the maths for all you judgemental people quick to make us as being in the wrong.

You would soon be crying if your 5 star association was being made to play 9 star associations, we complained about it and reported it to the technical dept but its not been fixed, even at 9 star average its still happening but at least we arent losing 18-0 18-0 18-0 month after month .

Would we prefer to win the league and go for the treble every season hell yes so if nordeus fixed the issue we have had for the past 2 years with the association draw then would i tank no, i love to win, tanking is boring having to lose just to stand a chance in association matches, but some of you whom are too stupid to read seem to think i tank to achieve something.

Yet if you were trying your hardest to do good in association matches to be cheated by the draw and im referring to a year ago, every week 7 stars playing 10 star associations, how can you ever stay in the platinum... i rest my case fools... love you all

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

ok, that's a statement @gabez but we can have some more constructive dialogue hearing the other side.

For example, @jadey
You 're saying that nordeus taking all the fun from asso but at the same time you 're destroying the rest - lol
You aren't playing seriously in your League & the CH.L. and play vs - 30/40% quality opponents for the Cup.
So, where is the fun at this ?

---

Niko i dont want to tank, it was a choice we agreed on, our manager doesnt tank, he is at the top of his server playing with 7 - 8 star team every week/month, you see it has a benefit for us, its annoying having to lose games but imagine the effort you put into trying hard in associations, all the time you spend to repeatedly be drawn against a 10 star turkish legend association every week, then drop back down to gold 1 and our associatiion averaging 6 stars playing 3 9 star associations , if that happened once or twice here and there we see it as one hell of a challenge but every month after month is that fair.

What can you do, nobody else had them problems, we asked friends ect a year ago it was only us with the issue, so what do we do, get zero points in associations because theres something wrong with the draw or try and tank and get our teams equal to the teams were being made to play every month, i hate people that think we do it for an unfair advantage when our only reason was to stand a chance against associations 2 or 3 stars more superior

ok, as I can understand all of you ? some of you ? are in the top of the server so you 're facing the usual problems ?
promotions or not depending from the top teams ? playing with the same oppo in all the competitions ?
so there is no motivation to play in League and CH.L. ?

But for me, after all it's only one question.
Do you still have fun playing Top Eleven ?
If yes, there is some way.
fot example you and your friends start new teams and a new asso group and play from the beginning (putting in the freeze your current accounts).

* btw, I see you lost 18-0 How 's that ? If you 're equal, why cannot be more competitive ?

** If you continue and playing every time with the Turkish legends, I suggest to keep screens for every draw and send them again in support.
Some times, they don't understand the problem.

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by jadey

he is at the top of his server

---

I have never against manager (as i said earlier @ another topic) who is sitting highest level of her/his server. IT's fine. She/He is cannot do against it.

BUT! IMHO intentionally tanking is lame and nordeus should do against it!

sorry it's my opinion.

Looks like we'll be staying in gold 1 this season. As the association that beat us in the final last weekend will be waiting for us in the final this weekend if we manage to get past an association made up of 50% tankers.
1st time I've ever noticed back to back draws with 2 teams the same.
Might post screenshots later.

Join me in Gold 2, all you need to do is show up to win :)

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by Altiplano

Looks like we'll be staying in gold 1 this season. As the association that beat us in the final last weekend will be waiting for us in the final this weekend if we manage to get past an association made up of 50% tankers.
1st time I've ever noticed back to back draws with 2 teams the same.
Might post screenshots later.

---

well for the 3rd week running we again are drawn against the same teams, so the best chance we have is 3rd place because no way can we beat turkish legend who have all their teams above 180% ..... we dont stand a chance

Attachment 96941

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

ok, as I can understand all of you ? some of you ? are in the top of the server so you 're facing the usual problems ?
promotions or not depending from the top teams ? playing with the same oppo in all the competitions ?
so there is no motivation to play in League and CH.L. ?

But for me, after all it's only one question.
Do you still have fun playing Top Eleven ?
If yes, there is some way.
fot example you and your friends start new teams and a new asso group and play from the beginning (putting in the freeze your current accounts).

* btw, I see you lost 18-0 How 's that ? If you 're equal, why cannot be more competitive ?

** If you continue and playing every time with the Turkish legends, I suggest to keep screens for every draw and send them again in support.
Some times, they don't understand the problem.

---

Hi Niko....
Only our association manager is at the highest level on his server ,manager level 58 i think....and the rest of us are between level 10 - level 20, we all loved trying to win all tournaments until nordeus started cheating us.

Again we have been drawn for the 3rd week running against the strongest association in the entire game so best we can hope for his 3rd place (ive included the screenshot in a response 20 mins ago.... and to answer your question no, it is not fun anymore , even when we go back down to gold division 1 we will have 4 weeks against the same teams like we have for the past year, i feel sorry for our manager because he has played this game for 6 years now and this is the thanks he gets for being loyal to top eleven.

I do understand what you mean in regards to setting up a brand new association but he shouldnt have to, all we want to to play different teams in the association draw every week, like 98% of the rest of the associations.

In response to the 18-0, most of the games we only lost by 1 goal but its so hard to get points against turkish legends, they had 6 teams all above 184% and they are the strongest association in the entire game.

We have contacted support but we dont even receive any response from them, i have never met such a rude customer support in my life, they use to always reply if there was a problem but we reported this association draw issue 3 times in the past year but nothing has been done and no reply have ever been received from them.

They are really ruining the association tournament for me and others, if this was real life nordeus would be removed completely from football because the association should be a random draw but for us we just get thrown against the strongest ever association meaning we have no way to stay up because we cannot get enough points because or what nordeus are doing to our association.

ok, keep saving the screens.
No one else has a 9* group :confused:
weird

Quote:

---

Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos

ok, keep saving the screens.
No one else has a 9* group :confused:
weird

---

Even when our association averaged between 6 - 7 stars we still would be in a 9 star group, crazy right? Even now we have a chance to stay in platinum but next week nordeus will draw us against the exact same teams again, 3 weeks out of 3 our semi final match is against turkish legends, it really isnt fair.

If we found a way to cheat we would lose accounts but when we are being cheated because theres a bug concerning our association, all we can do is be cheated, its so frustrating.

Niko is there a way to report this without going through support and getting ignored, there are many many many 8 and 9 star associations out there and we just want the chance to play somebody different just like everybody else.

If nordeus can investigate this draw problem with our association surely they will find some bug that stops our opponents changing because right now we feel they do not care about their long time players