first impressions and a little excuses

[rogerniceguy]

I wrote



We know that China, Indonesia and Vietnam have some million accounts who could complete many groups.
so @rogerniceguy, would you prefer to play vs a Chinese at morning time (as it the only convenient time for Far East and European players) or vs a bot in a good time at evening ?

Fair point. But I don't generally have far eastern teams in my domestic competitions and they are mainly active. No bot teams in cl. If it can be achieved there surely it can in ic also. Besides i am in Europe. Let's say many far eastern players are 8 hours in front. 12 noon Europe 8pm far East works.

Bigger problem would be the fact far eastern users spend more $$. No idea what token costs are there. Maybe they just have a spend money on games culture and I'm a tight European accountant lol

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[Altiplano]

I wrote



We know that China, Indonesia and Vietnam have some million accounts who could complete many groups.
so @rogerniceguy, would you prefer to play vs a Chinese at morning time (as it the only convenient time for Far East and European players) or vs a bot in a good time at evening ?

If a draw of 32 active and paying teams was to be made before the prep began, then an attempt at least could be made to find 32 teams from similar time zones.
I play a Belgian bot with my 2nd team at 04:34 tomorrow......... How did that draw happen?

[rogerniceguy]

If a draw of 32 active and paying teams was to be made before the prep began, then an attempt at least could be made to find 32 teams from similar time zones.
I play a Belgian bot with my 2nd team at 04:34 tomorrow......... How did that draw happen?

Bots don't sleep. It's obviously a great time for your opponent to troll you lol

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[rogerniceguy]

Serious feedback on prep phase tho. Two things were said;

1. It would be manager v manager in finals. No mention of bots.

2. It would be beneficial to prepare well. No real benefit. Resources wasted.

Regarding 2 I'm trying to work out whether what has happened is sheer incompetence or a giant con to be honest. Still amazed either way.

Result is trust completely broken. How can nordeus ever expect users to spend real money ever again?

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ok, now that your mind and thoughts are more clear and cool,

What kind of draw would you expect ?

Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

What else ?
What quality of teams ?
All about the same q (but be warned for this ?)
Four scales of quality ? 75%, 95%, 105%, 115% up ?
A manager with 75% obviously didn't invest to that project and playing for fun
but what chances and interest would have a manager with 95% or 105% q vs 8 managers of 120% ?

* this question is not only for @po_zdrach but for every one.

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[Altiplano]

ok, now that your mind and thoughts are more clear and cool,

What kind of draw would you expect ?

Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

What else ?
What quality of teams ?
All about the same q (but be warned for this ?)
Four scales of quality ? 75%, 95%, 105%, 115% up ?
A manager with 75% obviously didn't invest to that project and playing for fun
but what chances and interest would have a manager with 95% or 105% q vs 8 managers of 120% ?

* this question is not only for @po_zdrach but for every one.

Pay to play. 10 tokens to enter.
Preliminary draw made before preperation starts. 32 managers will be able to see progress of other sides. At the end of preperation the 32 managers are placed in groups according to their quality at end of preperation. Thus more effort = better draw. If you're going to pay tokens to enter you're going to make some effort, right? Don't want to play? Don't pay.
Token rewards for last 16, quarter finalists to break even. Nordeus can still make a token profit.
Give us a star, give us a shirt, give us a player for winning.
But only, only, only put bot teams into the draws if a competition of 32 teams cannot be made from original entries. And even then games against not teams are NOT played, but an automatic 3-0 win for the human manager.

They seem to have taken what Khris organises (OMA competitions) and not quite got it right. And that's a pity. It has such possibilities.

[rogerniceguy]

10t entry decent idea. At least it's honest and upfront

Pay to play. 10 tokens to enter.
Preliminary draw made before preperation starts. 32 managers will be able to see progress of other sides. At the end of preperation the 32 managers are placed in groups according to their quality at end of preperation. Thus more effort = better draw. If you're going to pay tokens to enter you're going to make some effort, right? Don't want to play? Don't pay.
Token rewards for last 16, quarter finalists to break even. Nordeus can still make a token profit.
Give us a star, give us a shirt, give us a player for winning.
But only, only, only put bot teams into the draws if a competition of 32 teams cannot be made from original entries. And even then games against not teams are NOT played, but an automatic 3-0 win for the human manager.

They seem to have taken what Khris organises (OMA competitions) and not quite got it right. And that's a pity. It has such possibilities.

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[po_zdrach]

I developed my team for win. For win against all teams 90%-110%. If Nordeus was say that it is meaningless develop my team, I never will invest resources about develop.

You Nik asked them about draw and answer was clear - develop your team!

[po_zdrach]

And finally, in what universe is better to not work harder for your develop, to not make efforts, to be passive for win....

[Bunzo]

They seem to have taken what Khris organises (OMA competitions) and not quite got it right. And that's a pity. It has such possibilities.



Yes
They should have got Khris to organise it for them ......

[rogerniceguy]

They seem to have taken what Khris organises (OMA competitions) and not quite got it right. And that's a pity. It has such possibilities.



Yes
They should have got Khris to organise it for them ......

Do you think it's incompetence or deliberate? Lol

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