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    ok, now that your mind and thoughts are more clear and cool,

    What kind of draw would you expect ?

    Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
    Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

    What else ?
    What quality of teams ?
    All about the same q (but be warned for this ?)
    Four scales of quality ? 75%, 95%, 105%, 115% up ?
    A manager with 75% obviously didn't invest to that project and playing for fun
    but what chances and interest would have a manager with 95% or 105% q vs 8 managers of 120% ?

    * this question is not only for @po_zdrach but for every one.
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    With this draw, every effort in prepare phase is meaningless. I have better chances with my abandoned team.

    Do not try to defend Nordeus Nik, I know, you know, everyone know how unfair is this draw.

    What about timer? What you say about the most expensive timer I ever have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by po_zdrach View Post
    With this draw, every effort in prepare phase is meaningless. I have better chances with my abandoned team.
    Do not try to defend Nordeus Nik, I know, you know, everyone know how unfair is this draw.
    What about timer? What you say about the most expensive timer I ever have?
    I 'm not defending anyone.
    (fyi, we the mods don't have any extra info about the game but have also the free will of criticizing).
    After the IC start, I also followed the advice to prepare better my team (I spent 120 tokens for buying extra players and about 120 greens for extra games, ending with a victory on Spain).
    When I saw my group, with another human manager same q and two bot teams little less, I pissed of and decided that I won't follow any more my team and leave all my games in auto.
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    But let's say that nord-devs are watching the forum as we represent a part of what they call "communities" ..
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    What kind of draw would you expect ?
    I would be ok if every group had a top dog with a quality like my team,
    a 2nd human manager with some less q, like 90-98% and the two bot teams with qualities of 75% and 85% .

    Every group having the same architecture so the top dogs if playing good, to cross with the underdogs and continue like this.

    Every manager who made a team above 100% (creating this quality, it means you already spent much more tokens and greens that the prizes of the IC) , should be the top dog of his group (so it should be 104% - 90% and 80% -70% the two bots)
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    Please no bot teams. Games usp is human 2 human real active managers
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    I 'm not defending anyone.
    (fyi, we the mods don't have any extra info about the game but have also the free will of criticizing).
    After the draw, as I also followed the advice to prepare better my team (I spent 120 tokens for buying extra players and about 120 greens for extra games, ending with a victory on Spain).
    When I saw my group, with another human manager same q and two bot teams little less, I pissed of and decided that I won't follow any more my team and leave all my games in auto.
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    But let's say that nord-devs are watching the forum as we represent a part of what they call "communities" ..
    so
    What kind of draw would you expect ?
    I would be ok if every group had a top dog with a quality like my team,
    a 2nd human manager with some less q, like 90-98% and the two bot teams with qualities of 75% and 85% .

    Every group having the same architecture so the top dogs if playing good, to cross with the underdogs and continue like this.

    Every manager who made a team above 100% (creating this quality, it means you already spent much more tokens and greens that the prizes of the IC) , should be the top dog of his group (so it should be 104% - 90% and 80% -70% the two bots)
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    Four scales of quality to reflect effort resources and money spent.

    Next to no bots. Abandon idea of 1 Germany 1 England 1 Spain. Use Te team names with national emblem and kits and maybe nation underneath somehow.

    Have all 6 asso members in same competition for banter
    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    ok, now that your mind and thoughts are more clear and cool,

    What kind of draw would you expect ?

    Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
    Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

    What else ?
    What quality of teams ?
    All about the same q (but be warned for this ?)
    Four scales of quality ? 75%, 95%, 105%, 115% up ?
    A manager with 75% obviously didn't invest to that project and playing for fun
    but what chances and interest would have a manager with 95% or 105% q vs 8 managers of 120% ?

    * this question is not only for @po_zdrach but for every one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerniceguy View Post
    Four scales of quality to reflect effort resources and money spent.

    Next to no bots. Abandon idea of 1 Germany 1 England 1 Spain. Use Te team names with national emblem and kits and maybe nation underneath somehow.
    I wrote
    Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
    Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

    We know that China, Indonesia and Vietnam have some million accounts who could complete many groups.
    so @rogerniceguy, would you prefer to play vs a Chinese at morning time (as it the only convenient time for Far East and European players) or vs a bot in a good time at evening ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    I wrote



    We know that China, Indonesia and Vietnam have some million accounts who could complete many groups.
    so @rogerniceguy, would you prefer to play vs a Chinese at morning time (as it the only convenient time for Far East and European players) or vs a bot in a good time at evening ?
    Fair point. But I don't generally have far eastern teams in my domestic competitions and they are mainly active. No bot teams in cl. If it can be achieved there surely it can in ic also. Besides i am in Europe. Let's say many far eastern players are 8 hours in front. 12 noon Europe 8pm far East works.

    Bigger problem would be the fact far eastern users spend more $$. No idea what token costs are there. Maybe they just have a spend money on games culture and I'm a tight European accountant lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    I wrote



    We know that China, Indonesia and Vietnam have some million accounts who could complete many groups.
    so @rogerniceguy, would you prefer to play vs a Chinese at morning time (as it the only convenient time for Far East and European players) or vs a bot in a good time at evening ?
    If a draw of 32 active and paying teams was to be made before the prep began, then an attempt at least could be made to find 32 teams from similar time zones.
    I play a Belgian bot with my 2nd team at 04:34 tomorrow......... How did that draw happen?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Altiplano View Post
    If a draw of 32 active and paying teams was to be made before the prep began, then an attempt at least could be made to find 32 teams from similar time zones.
    I play a Belgian bot with my 2nd team at 04:34 tomorrow......... How did that draw happen?
    Bots don't sleep. It's obviously a great time for your opponent to troll you lol

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    Serious feedback on prep phase tho. Two things were said;

    1. It would be manager v manager in finals. No mention of bots.

    2. It would be beneficial to prepare well. No real benefit. Resources wasted.

    Regarding 2 I'm trying to work out whether what has happened is sheer incompetence or a giant con to be honest. Still amazed either way.

    Result is trust completely broken. How can nordeus ever expect users to spend real money ever again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    ok, now that your mind and thoughts are more clear and cool,

    What kind of draw would you expect ?

    Ok, it would be better having all human managers but maybe bot teams are necessary to overcome some problems like having many countries like Brazil, Germany or England.
    Also it's easier to set convenient hours of the games.

    What else ?
    What quality of teams ?
    All about the same q (but be warned for this ?)
    Four scales of quality ? 75%, 95%, 105%, 115% up ?
    A manager with 75% obviously didn't invest to that project and playing for fun
    but what chances and interest would have a manager with 95% or 105% q vs 8 managers of 120% ?

    * this question is not only for @po_zdrach but for every one.
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