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Joggi How`s that? mutants 18 y.o. 07-14-2018, 09:55 AM
dave1311 Lots of power training and... 07-14-2018, 09:58 AM
Bunzo No... Upselling 07-14-2018, 10:01 AM
dave1311 Yep, that too. 07-14-2018, 10:01 AM
TropikThunder How does that work actually?... 07-14-2018, 10:07 PM
Bunzo Its more to do with the grey... 07-15-2018, 10:00 AM
Bunzo Because Nordeus done nothing... 07-14-2018, 09:59 AM
rogerniceguy Yes upselling and friendlies.... 07-14-2018, 03:36 PM
po_zdrach And this happen after most... 07-15-2018, 11:48 AM
madflo19 Wow i thought that the... 07-15-2018, 12:00 PM
rogerniceguy Yes it was a failure in my... 07-15-2018, 03:12 PM
Bunzo They do not have a clue........ 07-15-2018, 12:32 PM
lalexrus why lie? the production of... 07-17-2018, 09:20 AM
madflo19 Then if the up selling is not... 07-17-2018, 09:32 AM
lalexrus this is a negotiation in the... 07-17-2018, 09:40 AM
seagull TE should stop upselling to... 07-16-2018, 06:14 AM
lalexrus I think that now it makes no... 07-17-2018, 09:48 AM
Ποσιδονας Finishing with that upselling... 07-17-2018, 10:08 AM
lalexrus some managers specifically... 07-17-2018, 10:31 AM
rogerniceguy Easy fix for friendly... 07-17-2018, 10:57 AM
lalexrus but do not have to come up... 07-17-2018, 12:10 PM
Bunzo Ok Lalexrus, How would you... 07-17-2018, 02:22 PM
nikolgiorgos don't mix two different... 07-17-2018, 02:46 PM
lalexrus you are in vain to share,... 07-17-2018, 04:00 PM
nikolgiorgos I think you don't understand... 07-17-2018, 06:52 PM
lalexrus maybe, however, you probably... 07-17-2018, 07:11 PM
nikolgiorgos - after the last update about... 07-17-2018, 07:59 PM
lalexrus new players can not be... 07-17-2018, 08:06 PM
nikolgiorgos it's not like that but ok,... 07-17-2018, 08:09 PM
pcmacdaniel I agree with what Lalexrus... 07-18-2018, 04:38 AM
lalexrus about what and the speech,... 07-18-2018, 04:45 AM
Altiplano Ok I think I get it. What... 07-18-2018, 07:00 AM
lalexrus why only top-100? Do you... 07-18-2018, 07:38 AM
Ποσιδονας I made a test using an AMR... 07-18-2018, 07:40 AM
maloukees How can you train a mutant... 07-18-2018, 08:06 AM
lalexrus buy 18 years old 3 * and... 07-18-2018, 08:18 AM
Altiplano Check the ratings for each... 07-18-2018, 10:58 AM
Ποσιδονας There is another thread about... 07-18-2018, 08:09 AM
Ποσιδονας I test it and found that with... 07-18-2018, 08:49 AM
lalexrus Well, I wrote - train the... 07-18-2018, 09:00 AM
cayembe You can improve white skills... 07-18-2018, 10:20 AM
Ποσιδονας So, any explaination about... 07-18-2018, 10:32 AM
nikolgiorgos ok, here is the answer We... 07-19-2018, 07:55 PM
CoachB In other words, cheat. No,... 07-19-2018, 08:16 PM
Ποσιδονας what life ? yesterday you... 07-20-2018, 11:47 AM
dave1311 A bit like tanking. Cannot... 07-20-2018, 11:48 AM
TropikThunder Is there an advantage in... 07-20-2018, 06:39 AM
Ποσιδονας The scenario is that - let's... 07-20-2018, 12:04 PM
Ποσιδονας No, in all the games he was... 07-18-2018, 11:25 AM
Aku Papua u need to run out ur players... 07-18-2018, 01:12 PM
cayembe You can get grey or white... 07-18-2018, 03:58 PM
nikolgiorgos Yes, that's correct. you... 07-18-2018, 07:22 PM
po_zdrach And players can be 0... 07-18-2018, 05:25 PM
madflo19 Exactly, this is the... 07-18-2018, 06:07 PM
pcmacdaniel The adding to gray skills can... 07-18-2018, 08:00 PM
Reece p FC I have no idea what you just... 07-18-2018, 09:20 PM
pcmacdaniel Only international cup 07-18-2018, 09:54 PM
CoachB So obvious that Nordeus has... 07-19-2018, 03:44 PM
Ποσιδονας Thanks for sharing this Nik... 07-20-2018, 11:50 AM
Aku Papua I saw an opponent, lvl 6,... 07-20-2018, 01:20 PM
dave1311 It is possible if you put the... 07-20-2018, 01:43 PM
nikolgiorgos What you do is to use your 5*... 07-20-2018, 04:10 PM
Bunzo Nick, I cannot see how he is... 07-20-2018, 04:47 PM
nikolgiorgos maybe not in every game but... 07-20-2018, 06:31 PM
Aku Papua I cant see putting ur GK or... 07-20-2018, 07:27 PM
Aku Papua After checking the grey... 07-20-2018, 07:47 PM
Bunzo Who are you on about? 07-21-2018, 07:36 AM
nikolgiorgos Friendlies is the theme today... 07-22-2018, 05:42 PM
rogerniceguy Yep it's spreading. News... 07-22-2018, 05:45 PM
Altiplano I wonder how many crashes... 07-22-2018, 05:53 PM
dave1311 You’re not on my friend list... 07-22-2018, 06:01 PM
Bunzo Yes more than 50 today for... 07-22-2018, 06:40 PM
Der_Ryan_M The most stupid thing about... 07-22-2018, 06:17 PM
Reece p FC last season I went from 70... 07-22-2018, 06:41 PM
dave1311 Depends where you put them. I... 07-22-2018, 06:49 PM
Reece p FC that wasn't my point, if you... 07-22-2018, 07:45 PM
rogerniceguy I'm guessing with a 28 man... 07-22-2018, 07:59 PM
nikolgiorgos most of the people don't get... 07-22-2018, 08:01 PM
Reece p FC I get how the friendlies... 07-22-2018, 08:12 PM
pcmacdaniel Players trained via friendly... 07-22-2018, 08:21 PM
pcmacdaniel All the injuries resulting... 07-22-2018, 08:08 PM
Der_Ryan_M Maybe, but injuries are not... 07-23-2018, 04:03 PM
nikolgiorgos You don't need to build a... 07-22-2018, 08:14 PM
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    but do not have to come up with friendlies - to limit as before 5 matches a day and even though two years the player is training )
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    Ok Lalexrus,
    How would you explain the OP of an 18 year old player with 1% grey skills?
    That was not done through countless friendly games and as you have said upselling is not a problem anymore ?

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    don't mix two different things @Lalexrus
    Creating mutants with upselling is one thing
    (@Ποσιδονας made a good and simple suggestion to stop this - we need more active negotiations but without abusing).

    Friendlies is another story.
    With friendlies you cannot create or keep mutants as the gaining skills are random and gonna spoil the 340%-1% balance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    don't mix two different things @Lalexrus
    Creating mutants with upselling is one thing
    (@Ποσιδονας made a good and simple suggestion to stop this - we need more active negotiations but without abusing).

    Friendlies is another story.
    With friendlies you cannot create or keep mutants as the gaining skills are random and gonna spoil the 340%-1% balance.
    you are in vain to share, with friendlies you can make a mutant in the style of the old system of training, and there are no restrictions either on the values ​​of skills nor on the overall rating of the player. the only drawback is the number of matches.

    at the moment upselling is not a strong advantage - most crying about this from managers who do not really train their teams but only buy by offers or at an auction and expect that such players will suddenly give them the opportunity to take win. but the number of such people with cunning assholes is just off scale.

    ps just run around with their complaints that nordeus again something "fix" only again the problems will get all active managers



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    I think you don't understand how friendlies work - but don't want to explain either
    (I don't mean for you)
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    I think you don't understand how friendlies work - but don't want to explain either
    (I don't mean for you)
    maybe, however, you probably do not devote much time to the game and do not know many things. yes, the acquisition of skills seems random, but for example, amc + aml + amr is not quite so - it gives more finishing skills and a heading, but overall the delivery of skills goes in a circle, the exception is the passing and dribbling skills that these positions for some reason very seldom. in general, the really current system of training does not allow you to make a player with all the bright skills in 340, and even all the gray skills to do in 1 - even with a large difference in levels, there will still be one or another skill above 1. but in the current versions of the game, playing hundreds friendlies in fact, you usually get +4 to a light skill (very rarely to gray) for one match, for 100 matches +400 that allows you to supplement (not to train with some exercises some skills - from those that often give out in matches) some skills and for almost any player to get skills even more than 340. with the start of the International Cup, for some reason, the limit on friendly matches has disappeared so there was the possibility of playing hundreds (and a week and thousands) of matches and as a result, in addition to free training, resources.



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    - after the last update about training and skills, white and grey skills don't have any difference in gaining
    - a manager who has a mutant players 5* (with 340%/1% - or something like this) don't want to improve his quality anymore.
    There is no reason to play friendlies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    - after the last update about training and skills, white and grey skills don't have any difference in gaining
    - a manager who has a mutant players 5* (with 340%/1% - or something like this) don't want to improve his quality anymore.
    There is no reason to play friendlies.
    new players can not be trained to make full 340/1 so managers use friendly matches to achieve this goal (in which case there is no need to use upseling)


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    it's not like that
    but ok, let's agree that we disagree
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    it's not like that
    but ok, let's agree that we disagree
    I agree with what Lalexrus says.

    Upselling bypassed the limiting factor of the slowing down of a players growth rate as they age. Non-upsellers could still build a 340%/1% mutant (for 6* range quality), the player would just be 30 years old by the time they reached those skills, a very expensive process.

    With friendly, age no longer matters.
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