I think to continue complaints about tanking are tiresome, like we haven't already established that the main problem is in association. Whatever Nordeus tries to do backfires them, because the game is set in a certain way and for people who have played for a certain amount of time there are no surprises so we will do what it takes to either adapt or stop playing. If they make a drastic change they will probably miss a good chunk of players so I don't think they will go there. Manipulation is also a result of the way the game draws are made, if you do or do not manipulate someone somewhere is still screwed playing higher level teams no matter what, so why should I be the prey and not the hunter.