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    Team Conceding Too Many Goals

    Way back, I used to be able to shut teams out, but since I came back to this game (last season), I could not do it as such, no matter what approach - deep lying, defensive styles or high pressing styles or even combinations of both and even parking the bus. Of course, I have been reinforcing the defence too by buying defenders that should be good enough, but the problem is still there.



    None of those opposing managers attended, and most of those opposing teams are weaker or close to same quality (except A.E live which was a bit stronger). I think this is alarming.


    Maybe someone used to the current versions of the game can help?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tactician View Post
    Way back, I used to be able to shut teams out, but since I came back to this game (last season), I could not do it as such, no matter what approach - deep lying, defensive styles or high pressing styles or even combinations of both and even parking the bus. Of course, I have been reinforcing the defence too by buying defenders that should be good enough, but the problem is still there.



    None of those opposing managers attended, and most of those opposing teams are weaker or close to same quality (except A.E live which was a bit stronger). I think this is alarming.


    Maybe someone used to the current versions of the game can help?
    Players last 5 matches ratings page?.... and well... I would ask orders to see more or less what can occur... but I guess there are some bad programmed players there that give these chances to the oppo'-...still u won 5 of the 6 so not so bad xD


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    You tried playing three at the back or man-marking/zonal style changes?. Last season I stopped the best team in the league who had best attackers playing three at the back zonal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    Players last 5 matches ratings page?.... and well... I would ask orders to see more or less what can occur... but I guess there are some bad programmed players there that give these chances to the oppo'-...still u won 5 of the 6 so not so bad xD
    I know about such bad players but this should not be case for most if not all players I have now as best 11+7.

    Last season, it was clearly evident that something was wrong because my team was still conceding goals against weak, inactive opponents, against 1 team that got two red cards and of course even against teams using what should be inferior formations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yengdenss View Post
    You tried playing three at the back or man-marking/zonal style changes?. Last season I stopped the best team in the league who had best attackers playing three at the back zonal.
    Maybe you stopped the best team by 'troll' or maybe something is just wrong with my account.

    3 at the back, 3+2, 3+3... , zonal, man-on-man, high press, low press.... - all in vain as such. In other words, nothing seem work even decently or satisfactory when in fact some of those used should have done complete shut-outs, especially comparing to what the opposing teams been using as players and formations.
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    R u playing with a different formation in each match?^^


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    Quote Originally Posted by khris View Post
    R u playing with a different formation in each match?^^
    Well, 'nothing' worked decently since last season. My preferred formations of the past such as 3N-2W-2-1-2, 4-1-2-1-2, 3-5-2, 3-4-3 have been like fails since last season and preferred formations of many in this game, for example the 4-5-1 V, which you can see in the 4-1 case above clearly failed playing against a 4-1(MC)-3(WAM)-2 (with opposing manager absent).

    I don't know what is going on but many things have not been making much sense in this game. I tried all sort of football styles, especially those that should be superior to what the opponents been using, but still a lot of unsatisfactory results.
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    Giuda as ST MoM 9,2... as aml 6,6 amc 7,9 and 7,7... hmmm the truth is that I ask often for the page that show the whole team stars (goals, MoM... etc) but thats interesting, because here I can develop 2 thesis:

    1- when you play with a similar/or the same "base formation" you can win all, with good players
    2- of course exist the method to, play with different formations in each match... with good players (well programmed) but this needs a little bit more effort knowing "where to allocate the players and with who next to them"....


    It is complicated really.... but for own experience... "there's a point" in what u can see.. that the game goes fluid and the bar possession is in your favour constantly... sometimes one can notice about that factor just subbing' one player... -call it negative impact- so, I will go to the conslusion that, you have 1-2 players that allow these chances for the oppo' ...still but you have well programmed players cause the game resolve the matches in your favour...

    ...If this was my situation... and moving the formation I would do a little scheme... X player better Y position... Z, A,B contributes with goals-assists... or defensive actions... C,D, are aggresive or fail too much/or do not appear... /when F player plays the possession bar is hard to control... and then... maybe I would touch something... even after 1-2 friendlies vs 1*'s to oversize the internal programming and check out the most contributive players and the negative impact ones...

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    well u see... formations are just strange forms xD Im experimenting with the 5-2-3 and 2-1-4-3 and you can see ... both teams won +20%'s xD so... players r all...


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    Played same formation game this season...it was my first league match ...
    I play 4-5-1v and opp had the same 4d-1mc-3amw-2s
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    But well result was different...i played him with low pressure easy tackling so I still had some reservs or maybe I changed to high at halftime forgot that detail...

    I have 5% stronger team than this guy
    Got equal opp teams in CHL and league...

    We were both spectating the game...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitja fc View Post
    Played same formation game this season...it was my first league match ...
    I play 4-5-1v and opp had the same 4d-1mc-3amw-2s
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    But well result was different...i played him with low pressure easy tackling so I still had some reservs or maybe I changed to high at halftime forgot that detail...

    I have 5% stronger team than this guy
    Got equal opp teams in CHL and league...

    We were both spectating the game...
    Yes, and 4-5-1 V or 4-1-4-1 or even those through the middle with good cover at the back should be working, but not for my case. I met this team 3 times already, twice last season, one of which I won narrowly 2-1 at home with a 5-1-2-1-1 type of formation and lost 3-0 away with another approach, and this season, 1 away match 4-1 lost. Attacking, high pressing or defensive, force counter-attacks, and even the nonsense such as attacking and force counter-attacks - all fail as such. Another formation that I have been having trouble against - those like mid- way 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 hexagon, but as shown above I cannot even shut out teams using other formation or even inferior ones with whatever approach I have been using.

    Something clearly is wrong.
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