another troll another day at office

so this ridiculous game engine strikes again me 122% against 88% just played same side in cup won both games 3-0 easily got same side in league lead one 1-0 possession all mine before i can blink its 1-4 down ?????????????!!!!!! wtf wtf wtf wtf lost 4-2 in end, what complete utter rubbish this is unacceptable and no i watch all my games this manager didn't in all three cases and i wasn't the only team trolled in my league the leaders (127%) were also beaten 3-2 against 100% team also who had player sent off when 2-1 down to leaders what total utter nonsense rubbish and starting to be a waste of time
a lucky result for our rivals my helpful AM says crap crap crap

same shit happen to me today, draw against 81% team. I have 114% ...

troll results are meant to happen to every manager once or twice at least every season

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Originally Posted by Palestine

troll results are meant to happen to every manager once or twice at least every season

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yes i know but happening more than that far more

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Originally Posted by iansyorkcityfc

i wasn't the only team trolled in my league the leaders (127%) were also beaten 3-2 against 100% team also who had player sent off when 2-1 down to leaders

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It seems that especially in the League, the troll strikes in blocks because the top teams all seem to have a bad day together. Maybe one team in the top 5 will benefit and win but the others drop points against the lower teams. Just my observation.

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Originally Posted by dave1311

It seems that especially in the League, the troll strikes in blocks because the top teams all seem to have a bad day together. Maybe one team in the top 5 will benefit and win but the others drop points against the lower teams. Just my observation.

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yes this exact same thing happened today scripted leagues i'm second in league 3 points behind leaders who lost to -30% q team i drew 1-1 to -30% go figure scripted or not

It is scripted... Your score depends of title rivals score and vice versa... Seen it so many times... The game is a big pile of crap...

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Originally Posted by Steppenwolf

It is scripted... Your score depends of title rivals score and vice versa... Seen it so many times... The game is a big pile of crap...

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its so predictable and don't forget your free birthday shirt :rolleyes:

disappointingly out of Cup you know your going to loose as soon as your highlights are your shots hitting the posts :rolleyes: but who gets the blame yes the GK poor GKs what have they done to you nordeusless and yes oppo manager not present what a surprise :mad:

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disappointingly out of Cup you know your going to loose as soon as your highlights are your shots hitting the posts :rolleyes: but who gets the blame yes the GK poor GKs what have they done to you nordeusless and yes oppo manager not present what a surprise :mad:

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It's predetermined, I won my cup rematch 4-1 after losing first leg 4-0, against the opponent I beat in league 5-0 easily. So basically I won 2 matches against him comfortably and lose one match with equal stats 4-0 where he took all his chances and his GK had a superb performance... And of course I won the rematch 4-1 so that it is very narrow and dramatic.
I don't complain, I just don't understand it. Because all 3 games I played offensively and with the same formation, so how can I have such an off game and if he played defensive counter in the cup first match why wouldn't he do the same in rematch to defend his result? If tactics would matter, no one knows.

I don't want to think about this stuff so much, as I take the game less serious since last season, but it's just the stuff that turns me off it.

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Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M

It's predetermined, I won my cup rematch 4-1 after losing first leg 4-0, against the opponent I beat in league 5-0 easily. So basically I won 2 matches against him comfortably and lose one match with equal stats 4-0 where he took all his chances and his GK had a superb performance... And of course I won the rematch 4-1 so that it is very narrow and dramatic.
I don't complain, I just don't understand it. Because all 3 games I played offensively and with the same formation, so how can I have such an off game and if he played defensive counter in the cup first match why wouldn't he do the same in rematch to defend his result? If tactics would matter, no one knows.

I don't want to think about this stuff so much, as I take the game less serious since last season, but it's just the stuff that turns me off it.

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i remember just a year back playing a game lost to massive q team in CL 3-0 at home they also had more support than i've ever seen,2nd leg i'd given up just watched to do subs etc to get greens thinking i'm going to get thrashed they had massive support again, then troll engine takes over and i score 3 and win on penalties ????? often wondered how the guy thought after i trolled him lol,

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i remember just a year back playing a game lost to massive q team in CL 3-0 at home they also had more support than i've ever seen,2nd leg i'd given up just watched to do subs etc to get greens thinking i'm going to get thrashed they had massive support again, then troll engine takes over and i score 3 and win on penalties ????? often wondered how the guy thought after i trolled him lol,

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2 years ago or so, I won the cup first leg vs an about equal Q opponent 6-1 at home just to get defeated 5-0 away in the second leg. It was the craziest thing ever happening to me in TE. Since then, I am never sure to be through to the next round, as anything can happen in this crazy game... I wonder how there can be such a high spread in the possible results and then two extreme results are triggered one after another.

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2 years ago or so, I won the cup first leg vs an about equal Q opponent 6-1 at home just to get defeated 5-0 away in the second leg. It was the craziest thing ever happening to me in TE. Since then, I am never sure to be through to the next round, as anything can happen in this crazy game... I wonder how there can be such a high spread in the possible results and then two extreme results are triggered one after another.

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in real football it can happen witness champion league this season and last over turning results etc,but that a once in ten year happening,on here its every other game you can win 6-0 away from home only to lose 8-0 at home in second leg crazy and stupid, then you get players here say that's football but to me their teams are probably so high Q that they do not get the same type of scripted and manufactured trolls as we do and only bother about Asso and their platinum status as they just use leagues etc to tank and build monster teams

too equal teams on paper so its a surprise to lose not is isn't this TROLL FOOTBALL MANAGER 2019

SC another troll 1-1 60-40 no manager present after the scripted league results yesterday and appalling ASSOs results on top of that the devious and debious and scripted cup exit i just don't know wether to carry on yes am topping league but how long before game engine says no your not mate :(:mad: no control waste of effort save all tokens greens reds well that's a laugh no player gets injured now just sent off get YOUR ACT TOGETHER NORDEOUS OR I'M OFF

If I got "trolled" results as much as you apparently do I would have given the game away ages ago and found something else. Seriously at some point you have to wonder what you are doing wrong to get "trolled" every second match. I might get 1 or 2 questionable results in a season but thats all so I dont freak out about it , I put it down to the underdog had a good day and my guys werent at the top of their game which happens from time to time. As it is my high level team are sitting a little off the pace in 4th spot but my lower level team are still undefeated and sit top ,no worries about "troll" results really.

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SC another troll 1-1 60-40 no manager present after the scripted league results yesterday and appalling ASSOs results on top of that the devious and debious and scripted cup exit i just don't know wether to carry on yes am topping league but how long before game engine says no your not mate :(:mad: no control waste of effort save all tokens greens reds well that's a laugh no player gets injured now just sent off get YOUR ACT TOGETHER NORDEOUS OR I'M OFF

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I was thinking exactly the same mid week. Thought about rage quitting and telling my association buddies I’d had enough, but I just closed the game and left it at that. I thought this season things were a little better but Iv now had 3 troll results in the league, and the guy who came 3rd to me in league last season is enjoying some kind of Nordeus troll impunity with no problems at all against other teams and has won all games Barr losing justly, to me 4-0 at his ground. Iv lost two troll games and one draw. I’d accept one, but not when the league leader suffers none at all. Cup has been fine for me and I should reach the final, suffering with no real shocks but CL group it was like some games were predetermined for me to struggle against weak opposition. Still, I got through and won the first knockout leg 5-1 earlier today, but the problem, is like you say. It just doesn’t feel like you have any control when troll factors seem to take hold. Nothing changes the outcome.


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sorry @ iansyorkcityfc but you cannot start another thread for every bad result you had.
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sorry @ iansyorkcityfc but you cannot start another thread for every bad result you had.
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this is just not about bad results its about the whole game,your winning your titles by manipulation nik i would suspect others are doing too,this is my 82 season and never have i seen so many complete nonsense scripted game engine manufactured results ever,asso results this weekend complete joke,ripped off points in asso last weekend,and what do nordeus give everyone for birthday treat yeh a shirt and a couple of tokens wow big deal

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If I got "trolled" results as much as you apparently do I would have given the game away ages ago and found something else. Seriously at some point you have to wonder what you are doing wrong to get "trolled" every second match. I might get 1 or 2 questionable results in a season but thats all so I dont freak out about it , I put it down to the underdog had a good day and my guys werent at the top of their game which happens from time to time. As it is my high level team are sitting a little off the pace in 4th spot but my lower level team are still undefeated and sit top ,no worries about "troll" results really.

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1 or 2 geez what rubbish whatever

score 0 -1
possesion 62 - 38
total chances 21 -10
average quality 116 vs 98

score 2 -1
possesion 38 - 62
total chances 17 - 15
average quality 102 vs 116


score 3 -3
possesion 38 - 62
total chances 19 - 11
average quality 116 vs 102

score 1 - 1
possesion 39 - 61
total chances 1 - 1
average quality 97 vs 116

score 1 -1
possesion 60 - 40
total chances 20 - 15
average quality 116 vs 102

score 3 -3
possesion 44 - 56
total chances 18 - 16
average quality 86 vs 116

score 0 -6
possesion 55 - 45
total chances 17 - 19
average quality 116 vs 118

No red cards in any of the games. The only game I was not present is the last one. In none of the games was the opposing manager present. So that is allready 7 games this season that seem off to me. In the last 56 seasons I have had the occassional result that felt wrong, but nothing like this. My team is pretty much the same aside from the improvements we all try to make each year.

Feels just very very off.
and this is from your thread nik

it's not what we think that the game should be working but how the game works right now.
A +30% in quality gives a slight advantage.
But there are other factors too. Training and skills of players, formation and orders, coaching and actions.
The same from opponent too.
Anyway, if someone believes that the game is out of (his) control and it's more frustrated than fun, he stops playing or taking a break.

Really the only results there , not withstanding what Niko has said ,that I would think might be a little "off" are the 3-3 draw and the 0-6 loss but both would fit into the my team wasnt at its best today and the other team was scenario.
Any game where there is less than 20% average quality between the teams is should provide a pretty even contest as the teams arent that different really , a few % in each category maybe. If they were games where your 116% team was getting beaten by teams of maybe 85 -90% or lower and it happened a few times then I might get concerned but what you show here is in the realm of possibility on any given day and nothing to be upset about. I wouldnt call these troll results to be honest.

maybe i am over reacting sorry if i come over that way KELPIE its nothing against you or anyone else here,so i have to apologise

so today home match -20% team to mine,i lost not 1-0 not 2-1 not even 3-2 all fair results in troll terms,no today's was the most appalling ridiculous score anyone could imagine bearing mind i'm topping the league by 5 pts at start of match day,result 1-5 how ??????, i'm out of all cups so team has full bonus,condition etc etc as not playing any other matches,game AI clearly from start had it in for me no game stats for almost 20 mins of game when it did come up neither side had any shots ? possession bar almost all for Oppo then he scores 1-0 Ai yes great idea we will send player off pen 2-0 goal again 2mins later 3-0 wtf ????? Ai has me clearly playing defensive which i never set, 2nd half 4-0 5-0 then goal for me grrrrrrrrrrrr game engine gone mad in extreme
all this nonsense above scripted so 2nd and 3rd have chance of winning league
i'll be even more annoyed if second place wins as player has poured greens into his team to build % twice this season his team is unbalanced in the extreme 150 % attack 151% midfield 117% defence ??????
i want competitive games and league but not at a cost integrity of the game, watching stupid AI DRIVEN RESULTS LIKE ABOVE 1-0 I may have complained troll and got on with it but result at later stages in league were AI of game engine is deciding league is just insane and not what players want

and as i type this 2nd placed team has drawn with -30% team and player sent off lol i'm still topping league only just though still scripted and he has two key payers missing for next league game

hey man, I 'm getting tired with your posts .
You 're playing 5 years , if the game is so frustrated, why don't you stop playing ?
Not that I 'm a big fun of the game as it is now. I liked the old TE, before 2016 and like to hanging around the forum or some TE groups sometimes.
I repeat levels and play for fun with my friends asso games only and some event if it's interesting.
But you are really boring and your posts don't even have some photos with stats, rates, players, just too see what are you talking about.

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hey man, I 'm getting tired with your posts .
You 're playing 5 years , if the game is so frustrated, why don't you stop playing ?
Not that I 'm a big fun of the game as it is now. I liked the old TE, before 2016 and like to hanging around the forum or some TE groups sometimes.
I repeat levels and play for fun with my friends asso games only and some event if it's interesting.
But you are really boring and your posts don't even have some photos with stats, rates, players, just too see what are you talking about.

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if you don't like don't read simple

I can't :p
If there is some new thread in general discussion I will read it.
If they could have another section about troll results, with all those threads and posts, I wouldn't bother to read them.

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I can't :p
If there is some new thread in general discussion I will read it.
If they could have another section about troll results, with all those threads and posts, I wouldn't bother to read them.

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my post is not about a troll result as such 1-0 defeat i would not have posted, its that actual crazy game engine and its decision making before game we are told to do xyz and you can win but not game engine AI its xxx, in all the games its seems your not playing the oppo at all but the AI even if oppo manager is present

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Gone top of the league after a real tough season...next 3 games are against teams in the bottom 4.....here comes the troll!!!!!!

QUOTE=pleasures;621931]Gone top of the league after a real tough season...next 3 games are against teams in the bottom 4.....here comes the troll!!!!!!
if you were 12 points or more in front would the troll results happen ???

2 trolls avoided...against the bottom of the table tomorrow.......

Troll avoided today by not logging in. I was the home team. Finished 1-1 and ended up in penalties. I won 5-4 but my ratings aren't great so I think had I logged in I would have lost. I was even 1-3 down in penalties and he missed 2 to win. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...01d86d1f26.jpg

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Troll avoided today by not logging in. I was the home team. Finished 1-1 and ended up in penalties. I won 5-4 but my ratings aren't great so I think had I logged in I would have lost. I was even 1-3 down in penalties and he missed 2 to win. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...01d86d1f26.jpg

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don't you think that's kind of wrong and against the spirit of the game not to log in otherwise i'll be beaten don't think i've ever known a manager not go to real game of football so his side can win ?????

I feel if we log in and watch. The game expects us to do something to win SOMETIMES. And we have to make the right decisions or be punished.
Some trolls i beat while watching required me to make a sub and i scored. And some required me to change to hard attacking or defensive or long ball.
If you make a wrong move, you lose as expected. But if you make the right move, you win the game. I get this about 3 to 4 times a season.

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don't you think that's kind of wrong and against the spirit of the game not to log in otherwise i'll be beaten don't think i've ever known a manager not go to real game of football so his side can win ?????

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Absolutely it's against the spirit of the game and also goes against the very ethos of T11.
I have started threads elsewhere about the benefits of not logging in and whilst it might seem odd, I can categorically say that my team performs better when I'm not present. Which confirms in my mind that the game engine over-compensates the absent Manager.
Plus my Missus isn't on my case every 5 minutes when I interrupt family events to watch a game. So it gives me some family time and less earache.

i honestly don't know what to believe anymore. last season i won everything. 4/4 trophies. and by my history with this game, ALWAYS after a perfect season, next one is troll season. same thing is happening now, so far i had a draw with a 60% manager in ch league after leading 2-0 (he scored in 82 and 89), and today a 89 min win against a 40% team in cup. 24 shots and only 2!!!! on goal (i have no idea how can this be possible). my team is almost 120% and struggling with a 40% team just shows me that this season i won't win all trophies. that's how top eleven works for me and this is how i know seasons are programmed in advance. we'll see at the end of the season if i'm right about this or not.

I always have a much tougher season than usual after a perfect season so you're definitely spot on. Winning just 1 trophy if any the following season will be challenging and an accomplishment for sure. I experienced that the few times i managed a perfect season which is only 4.