Predictable live match Animations.

What I have noticed while playing this game is the very predictable live match animations.

After playing for 2 years and a half, you can tell what will happen by the way the ball bounces in a certain way to one of your players from a corner or one of this free kicks from the side of the box there is most likely going to be a goal.

It is the same thing for when your player runs down the wing crosses it and it is cleared by the defender in 80% of cases.

Your players most of the time do not see the opportunity for a clear through ball, instead they run down the wing, cross it into the box only for the ball to be headed away from the defender.

And what happens in troll matches is that every time they ball falls to your player perfectly or a through ball is given to them, most of the time that ball is going over the bar.

And you know this is the worst thing, when the commentator says you are on a counter attack, oh x us running along the side and crosses it into x, a perfect chance, Annndddd? No Goal? The keeper only grazed it with his fingers. (Predictable comment).

This occurs in every single match? The animations are the same too.

I think for the next update they should spice up the animations by bringing in some new actions.


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This is absolutely right. I only just started using animations as I always preferred the text and it is easy to work out what will happen. How anyone can work out tactics is beyond me because no matter what you do, the animations don’t change and when you play through the middle it still goes out wide.
Might go back to text.

You’re right though, animations need a refresh.

Yeah I agree. It’s one of the reasons since the morale changes that my centre midfielders are always referred to as not providing assists in a while, how can they when the ball goes down the wing everytime.

And yeah the funniest example of tactics not affecting animation was when I was losing a game that was nearly over, so switched to long ball & then moments later I scored one of those fast sweeping goals with heaps of passes you see lol

Also don’t get me started on when my player is effectively 1 on 1 but passes backwards or out to the flanks!!!

Maybe this is what they called deja vu in philosophy, that whatever will happen has already happened. We are just part-time actors in an already pre-determined world.

To summarise in layman terms, the animations are already playing out what has already happened.

Freekick - oh yeah, goalkeeper grazed it to the corner
Corner 1 - defender reacted clumsily (another corner - good old days 4 years ago would be a GOAL ) lol
Corner 2 - we have two options - 1/ Goalie smoothers the ball or 2/ foul from the player

Good old days , two corners in row = 100% goal scored lol

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Originally Posted by Sol Survivor

Yeah I agree. It’s one of the reasons since the morale changes that my centre midfielders are always referred to as not providing assists in a while, how can they when the ball goes down the wing everytime.

And yeah the funniest example of tactics not affecting animation was when I was losing a game that was nearly over, so switched to long ball & then moments later I scored one of those fast sweeping goals with heaps of passes you see lol

Also don’t get me started on when my player is effectively 1 on 1 but passes backwards or out to the flanks!!!

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Yes this infuriated me so much, this was 6 seasons ago, I was in the Final of the CL and I was losing 1-0 to a weaker team and it was the 85 minute and we were practically one on one to equalise and my player boots out to the wing to my best player and he was probably like what are you doing? But he crossed it in only to be cleared and we lost the Final.

It took me one more lost CL Final to actually win it. I won it last season, as my team got a few hard opponents and other good opponents were trolled out of the competition, this was also the same for the cup too.


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Originally Posted by redsnoopy

Maybe this is what they called deja vu in philosophy, that whatever will happen has already happened. We are just part-time actors in an already pre-determined world.

To summarise in layman terms, the animations are already playing out what has already happened.

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Yes, I think could be possible but I still stand by that they should be changed anyway.


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totally agree, but as long abandoned teams can make a surprise for top teams because algoritam says that it mean strategy and managing means nothing, when that changes probably will be changed and animation

Max I totally disagree with you its true animations have a certain predictability mas i've been noticing new moves, ex. yesterday i saw a player passing the ball to the keeper, never seen it before.

What keeps bothering me in this forum is the constant destructive critisim i find here, what about going to the sugestion area and say what can be improved?

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Max I totally disagree with you its true animations have a certain predictability mas i've been noticing new moves, ex. yesterday i saw a player passing the ball to the keeper, never seen it before.

What keeps bothering me in this forum is the constant destructive critisim i find here, what about going to the sugestion area and say what can be improved?

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Yes I have seen the ball been passed back to the keeper before but it is rare


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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Max I totally disagree with you its true animations have a certain predictability mas i've been noticing new moves, ex. yesterday i saw a player passing the ball to the keeper, never seen it before.

What keeps bothering me in this forum is the constant destructive critisim i find here, what about going to the sugestion area and say what can be improved?

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I understand where you are coming from but I think they need a revamp of the live match animations because the same exact actions happen in every single match for the last 5-6 years, they need to change this because the same thing happening bores me.

And you said that we are giving destructive criticism? How is that? I never said the animations were bad? I was just giving constructive criticism on how they should improve it, I was not trying to come to communicate this idea in a bad way.

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Originally Posted by NUNO FC

Max I totally disagree with you its true animations have a certain predictability mas i've been noticing new moves, ex. yesterday i saw a player passing the ball to the keeper, never seen it before.

What keeps bothering me in this forum is the constant destructive critisim i find here, what about going to the sugestion area and say what can be improved?

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i do that many times, so as other ppl here, and how many suggestions actually was implemented in game? i dont remmeber any of it, most of changes nordeus does make game worse instead better, they might have good intentions but execution isnt good, worse thing is that they dont admit misstakes, never saw any update that says we are sorry but we need a fix it isnt what we wanted to be
Want examples, negotiations, last week of season, crapy update no mater what we says it isnt changed, or scouting players&youth accademy how long we ask for influence in what player we need, nothing changed, instead we get on fire morale whete player get on fire status for hat trick but lose it if next game provide just 2 goals and assist etc etc, i can write 2 pages of it

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Originally Posted by drazen vtc

i do that many times, so as other ppl here, and how many suggestions actually was implemented in game? i dont remmeber any of it, most of changes nordeus does make game worse instead better, they might have good intentions but execution isnt good, worse thing is that they dont admit misstakes, never saw any update that says we are sorry but we need a fix it isnt what we wanted to be
Want examples, negotiations, last week of season, crapy update no mater what we says it isnt changed, or scouting players&youth accademy how long we ask for influence in what player we need, nothing changed, instead we get on fire morale whete player get on fire status for hat trick but lose it if next game provide just 2 goals and assist etc etc, i can write 2 pages of it

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Indeed.

if you have 2 or more accounts, try open it simultaneously and you'll see same goalscorer but different kind of goal.
(corner direct header or DF headed out but your goalscorer still score after shoot from outside the box) or dribble GK/shoot from distance to beat GK (still same goalscorer name on the list) or direct FK goal/hit wall and attacker score from rebound.

but the most unpredictable highlights for me is when counterattack (usually ends up with goal) but now Nodeus make a counterattack highlights end up either ST misses/GK save, so they did change (a little) on the highlights tho

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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

if you have 2 or more accounts, try open it simultaneously and you'll see same goalscorer but different kind of goal.
(corner direct header or DF headed out but your goalscorer still score after shoot from outside the box) or dribble GK/shoot from distance to beat GK (still same goalscorer name on the list) or direct FK goal/hit wall and attacker score from rebound.

but the most unpredictable highlights for me is when counterattack (usually ends up with goal) but now Nodeus make a counterattack highlights end up either ST misses/GK save, so they did change (a little) on the highlights tho

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Wow that is interesting, I did not know that the animation for a goal changes in different points of view. I can’t do this experiment unfortunately


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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

but the most unpredictable highlights for me is when counterattack (usually ends up with goal) but now Nodeus make a counterattack highlights end up either ST misses/GK save, so they did change (a little) on the highlights tho

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I noticed that, but some misses are very unrealistic considering the quality of the attackers involved.

The highlights were more predictable some years ago than now though. But, predictable or not, I think what matters more is the accuracy of those highlights, something which is poor now. Highlights and ratings need to be accurate enough to give a proper view of how things are going to the manager so that he can extract more relevant information and make adjustments where required.

The animations are just a representation of the statistics. They're trying to give you an idea of who is having possession, chances and when goals are scored and by who. I don't think you can see anything more than that in them.

There are a set number of animations (or paths for players to take in the animations) so you're going to see the same thing over and over if you play enough. They'll never get round this as it's not a true simulation, but I agree that they could add in more variety and link the animations to your tactics better.

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Originally Posted by Ludo_Mansio

The animations are just a representation of the statistics. They're trying to give you an idea of who is having possession, chances and when goals are scored and by who. I don't think you can see anything more than that in them.

There are a set number of animations (or paths for players to take in the animations) so you're going to see the same thing over and over if you play enough. They'll never get round this as it's not a true simulation, but I agree that they could add in more variety and link the animations to your tactics better.

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Yeah, I knew they were the highlights but I still do think there should be new paths a player should take in leading to a goal chance


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One thing that is very predictable is the rebound from the goalkeeper when he punches away a shot and the attacker has a second shot. This one for sure you know it is a goal, but as long as it your team who is scoring, all good. ;)

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Originally Posted by Tactician

One thing that is very predictable is the rebound from the goalkeeper when he punches away a shot and the attacker has a second shof. This one for sure you know it is a goal, and as long as it your team who is scoring all good. ;)

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I know, I have seen some cases where the ball is cleared by the defender


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