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Is is better for me to attend games or not in TE2020 so far? I attended every game out of 4 so far and only won once. Either it's My 4-1-2-1-2 Tactics not working or should I not attend games at all? I mean I wanna get Morale boosters and rests by subbing players, but...
C'mon... What the fun if you not attend the match. Maybe the tactic or the players. My 5 MCs, only 1 working. The others 4 never do anything (goal or assist). So, you should attend your matches to gain the boosters and to see your team play.
I like to win but if that's the only fun of it you won't get a kick out of the game as only one can win, after I've got mysefl used to it I enjoy it much more!
Watch every game I can, though on easy games it seems to do more harm than good...
It's good to attend the games.
After two changes in game engine (one before about two years when they reduced the super domination scores vs abandoned or illegal formation teams
and another one before one year when the reduced the effect of the mutants) , any result is possible vs a weaker or abandoned or with absent manager team that has some descent formation if playing in auto.
What matters is that you must "read" the game and the stats, use bonus, make a sub, change the f-k/c-k takers if need, switch orders so to reverse a bad upcoming result.
If it wasn't to be, you have earned one green :p
Not sure but last season I didnt watch any games for all three of my teams (level 31 , level 25 and level 15 ) and all 3 won the league , 1 won a cup ,all 3 made at least 1/4 finals of CL. You might argue I could have won more cups or a CL if I had watched and I would say I might not have done as well as I did if I watched. I guess we will never know for certain but I am happy not watching , training 3 teams takes enough time as it is.
Kelpie the difficulties of the leagues vary so much you can't really compare season, two seasons ago i won very game, last year i came in 3rd with 5 defeats
So only In 2 games out of all so far I have won (Both attended) and 2 games I have attended have opponent scored twice in 5 minutes the second I joined the game. Gosh the game really loves me
Yeah in the start until today I realized that My 4-1-2-1-2 formation really worked negatively and I need wingers. So far 2 games with AML and AMR, won one, lost one, both I attended
I attend about 75 percent of my games. So far all wins when attending. All draws and losses so far have been when I did not attend. And the draws were all against much weaker teams. So my impression is attending helps. Also I notice bigger wins when I attend. I have to mention I have no support. Maybe attending matters less when you consistently have +15 possession with support from friends
I used to play 4-1-2-1-2w. No ST. It's good as well
Always attend matches
- Change tactics to overturn results when troll game seems likely
- Maximise goal difference (eg. Focusing attacks on where the opponent player on yellows or sent off)
- Minimise random negatives, such as second-yellow by substituting any yellow-carded player immediately, providing we have a good lead
- Needless to say, a sub can gain a green pack
On formations, it is typical when against:
a) A back-4 without DMC - play ST-ST-AMC attacking middle (3 vs 2 in centre back area)
b) A back-4 with DMC - either play AML-AMR-ST attacking flanks or AMC-AMC-ST attacking middle
c) A back-4 with 2 DMCs - play AML-AMR-ST(+Another ST is better, depending on players) attacking flanks
that's true. STs don't score.Quote:
Yeah in the start until today I realized that My 4-1-2-1-2 formation really worked negatively and I need wingers.
They do if you play 4-4-2 or a 4-5-1.Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
I m playing 4-2DMCs-AML-AMC-AMR-ST and from what i ve seen my ST acts as a playmaker to create spaces for the 3 guys behind him, also sometimes my Wingers drop in midfield for some reasons i don t know, although i tell them to stay up top.
My 21 Year old ST the game gifted at he start doesn’t but the 31 y/o that I purchased from auction scored 2 until day 5...Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
I have rarely attended games of any of my teams over the last 6-8 seasons simply because I think ,my opinion ,my teams do better without me watching. How much this is true/untrue I dont know but its the way I do things. Each manager do their own thing and be happy doing it. I will say this though ,when I was watching games my teams had a terrible record against the other top teams ,maybe win 1 out of 3 and now I would win 3 out of 4. Still its not proof of anything really.Quote:
Originally Posted by NUNO FC
Kelpie when you play with stronger teams without attending do you have good results?
The matches i miss ussualy go well with weaker teams but badly with strong ones.
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Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
For my case since 3 seasons, neither of the above. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperDunk
The picture below shows the statistics of most of my players at the end of last season.
https://i.postimg.cc/Gh6wF30F/Screen...3-10-53-18.png
The ST at the top of that list has been the top scorer in my team for 3 seasons in a row playing alongside wingers most of the time, and also he has been among the top assisters in two of the three seasons. I bought him from the daily recommendations list. He came as a fast trainer and with penalty taker special ability. Even in associations, he scored a lot, on some occasions as much as 3-4 goals in the same match. But, this might be an exceptional case. Nik's comment is also based on facts of the past (but exaggerated with the 'STs don't score' as STs still scored but not to the level of expectations) and I myself went through periods where STs were not scoring enough goals (not as expected) way back, and SuperDunk also is not wrong as such as the formation used also is a factor (but for the case in this thread, which is 4-1-2-1-2, STs should be scoring lots of goals else something is wrong which could be the players themselves, the team, tactics and so on).
People also need to take things with a grain of salt and also consider the possibility of biased statistics and biased views or comments. For example, if someone played with a 5-star or 6-star ST and a near 7-star AML and AMR, and on top set the AML and AMR to take free-kicks, penalties, but then later show and say STs do not score goals, do nothing, are comestic and so on, is more like misleading.
I think that in many cases, it might be about the players themselves (hidden factors) and what the system has chosen to be the key player(s) in the team and also the quality of the players, which happens that in many teams the wingers are of higher quality but also got picked as the key players. But then, if having significant higher quality, it is evident that the wingers will score more than the ST, especially if they are set to take free-kicks and penalties.
but @Tactician if you use your ST for free-kicks and penalties, those are extra goals.
I have played years with 4-5-1 V or AML/C/R+ ST and never my ST scored more goals than my AMs.
It can't be all my STs being useless.
There must be reasons why all never scored more goals than your wingers. But, some must have still scored a lot of goals and also maybe assisted decently too - definitely not useless players or cosmetic position. There might have been a few flop ones too (those what would rarely score and will mostly get a 7 or an 8 in ratings).Quote:
Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos
My ST was not a free-kick specialist. I mentioned above that he came with the penalty taker special ability. I did use him to take free-kicks from one side and the AMR/ST/AML took free kicks from the other side. He scored a lot of goals from open play - definitely not those STs I had in the past that were more or less absent in open play compared to wingers.
Like I said, it might be an exceptional case for mine, maybe due to several things (ST having higher quality than the wingers, ST was assigned to be a key player in my team by the system, good hidden factors, and so on). Me too I have been through that ****ty ST thing in the past - ST not scoring as expected and the wingers that stealed all the show, but for those past 3 seasons, that ST above was the main man of the show and the two wingers too of course. He has been top scorer for the team since the season he was bought. On his debut, which was an association match, he scored all 4 goals for my side if I am not mistaken. There have been some matches that he was like average like getting a 6-7 rating but this happens for other players too. Even in that season where my team was put in a tough league which had active and high quality opponents where my team came out 2nd in the end, that ST still made it 1st in the top scorer chart for that league.
The main formations I used were 451V, 4-1-3 (2MC, MR)-1(AML)-1 and Butterfly. On some rare occassions, I used other formations, including those that had no attacking wingers. One thing I noticed is that the other two players that could play as ST, which are the two wingers, did not perform to the same level when they played as ST compared to main ST. So, it could be player related (hidden factors).
The Inzaghi in your team was far from useless. He still performed when you played him as ST. One thing is that you mostly played versus much weaker teams which resulted in odds things happening and many of your goals coming from free-kicks, else maybe he would have scored more from open play as a ST.
But I must say from experience of the past (way back, not recently) that it seemed that the game favored attacking wingers (in some period, also AMC) for many things such as top rated, top scorer and top assister.
The point of my post was to show that a ST can still score goals - a lot of them - and also even when playing besides attacking wingers in the same team (so not neccessarily formation related), and a ST can be the star or among the star players in the team. Why many failed, ask Nordeus.
I don't mean to have the free-kick sa but to use him as a taker, something you do in half of the chances.Quote:
My ST was not a free-kick specialist. I mentioned above that he came with the penalty taker special ability. I did use him to take free-kicks from one side
I also use Inzaghi as a f-k taker and usually as a AML.
If I wouldn't use him for f-k , playing as ST, he wouldn't have maybe half of his goals.
Top Eleven game programming promotes the f-k.
In any game where the score is above 3-0, at least one goal is coming for f-k.
* something that is not happening in real football. There, the corner kicks create more goals.
I tend to lose far more matches and score far less goals when I attend a match... Even lose to far weaker teams as well, and get blown out from teams that are even competition... Have seen this happen time and again!!! There’s no benefit in attending a match of your own!!!
Lol it is the complete opposite for me when I played, I attended 3 out of 5 of the CL Finals and the ones I watched happened to be the ones I have lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sillybq
I attended 5 out of 8 of my cup finals and won 4 of them, losing once to a 34% abandoned team, I won both my super cup finals while attending,
Now for big league matches, when I attend, most of the time when I attend, I would lose, but when I don’t I would get convincing wins, I remember this 8th place giant killer in the league a few seasons ago, he beat all of the top 4 including myself at home, he ended my season long unbeaten run, he was 12% weaker but he set up so well to frustrate my team. We still won the treble but we lost that game at home which annoyed me, however, I attended that match and lost 0-1, then at the other end of the season, I didn’t attend and won 1-4, on the bright side he beat all of my title rivals that season too,
So the morale of the story is that I do not attend big games because I always lose them, I attend the not so important ones, I made up my mind up on that a few seasons before I quit.
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Oh yes. I remember your giant killer. He kind of helped you secure your trophy if I recall correctly. Lol that is so weird to attend the not so important matches and skip the important ones. But what's important is not wasting our month of hard work so whatever works :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Max McClean
But even based on your statistics, you won a good number of finals while attending for cup and super. I have had much less match experience so maybe I have not reached that level where attending penalises players. So far, I only feel it's positive effects. For example, just yesterday. I was late in attending a league match. Went in 2nd half 0-0. Subbed a below 7 rating AM and my team started scoring. But I can't confirm if it was due to me logging in or the match was scripted that way.