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    but @Tactician if you use your ST for free-kicks and penalties, those are extra goals.
    I have played years with 4-5-1 V or AML/C/R+ ST and never my ST scored more goals than my AMs.
    It can't be all my STs being useless.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nikolgiorgos View Post
    but @Tactician if you use your ST for free-kicks and penalties, those are extra goals.
    I have played years with 4-5-1 V or AML/C/R+ ST and never my ST scored more goals than my AMs.
    It can't be all my STs being useless.
    There must be reasons why all never scored more goals than your wingers. But, some must have still scored a lot of goals and also maybe assisted decently too - definitely not useless players or cosmetic position. There might have been a few flop ones too (those what would rarely score and will mostly get a 7 or an 8 in ratings).

    My ST was not a free-kick specialist. I mentioned above that he came with the penalty taker special ability. I did use him to take free-kicks from one side and the AMR/ST/AML took free kicks from the other side. He scored a lot of goals from open play - definitely not those STs I had in the past that were more or less absent in open play compared to wingers.

    Like I said, it might be an exceptional case for mine, maybe due to several things (ST having higher quality than the wingers, ST was assigned to be a key player in my team by the system, good hidden factors, and so on). Me too I have been through that ****ty ST thing in the past - ST not scoring as expected and the wingers that stealed all the show, but for those past 3 seasons, that ST above was the main man of the show and the two wingers too of course. He has been top scorer for the team since the season he was bought. On his debut, which was an association match, he scored all 4 goals for my side if I am not mistaken. There have been some matches that he was like average like getting a 6-7 rating but this happens for other players too. Even in that season where my team was put in a tough league which had active and high quality opponents where my team came out 2nd in the end, that ST still made it 1st in the top scorer chart for that league.

    The main formations I used were 451V, 4-1-3 (2MC, MR)-1(AML)-1 and Butterfly. On some rare occassions, I used other formations, including those that had no attacking wingers. One thing I noticed is that the other two players that could play as ST, which are the two wingers, did not perform to the same level when they played as ST compared to main ST. So, it could be player related (hidden factors).

    The Inzaghi in your team was far from useless. He still performed when you played him as ST. One thing is that you mostly played versus much weaker teams which resulted in odds things happening and many of your goals coming from free-kicks, else maybe he would have scored more from open play as a ST.

    But I must say from experience of the past (way back, not recently) that it seemed that the game favored attacking wingers (in some period, also AMC) for many things such as top rated, top scorer and top assister.

    The point of my post was to show that a ST can still score goals - a lot of them - and also even when playing besides attacking wingers in the same team (so not neccessarily formation related), and a ST can be the star or among the star players in the team. Why many failed, ask Nordeus.
    Last edited by Tactician; 12-13-2019 at 08:32 PM.