A bit of topic but I do not care lol, In our friendly I won 4-3 in a match I did not attend against you with 3 goals in the last 6 minutes with hard defending Looooooooooooooooooool, this is funny
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You are the clown here. Playing 2 dmc and ml /amr vs a team playing ml mc Mr is self killing. Go and persuade some newbies with your tactics. It was your fault, not nordeus.
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how does the master tactician explain this?
What happened?
the whole team colapsed in one game?
in 2 games he didn t score a goal, in the final he scored 4:rolleyes:
Comparing the rest with one game. Come on, are u serious? Okay I won all the games easily so I will go with a self killing formation in the final. I won't even see the tactics ,my players .i have better quality,i will win. How many times has Barcelona lost from a ****ty team ?
If u will tell me that top 11 isn't related to real football, you aren't playing top11 since 2012
Loser [emoji1787]
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SuperDunk, from the stats that i saw and both formations i cannot classify this as a troll match. Imo the formation was wrong , playing with 2 dmcs and no mc vs a team that play a ml+mc+mr = giving all the control of midfield to him. As a stronger side you should have shooted more than him ( poss% appart ) , so that's the first feedback you should have noticed from the stats, saying that you did something wrong. A troll would have been : i shooted 20 times oppo 2 times and he win 0-2 with super gk . This is not a troll
Guys, forget the stats, the players, the ratings for a bit.
i ve been playing this formation for 100 something games, and the only trolls i got from it were when i played CL finals.
is it random? it can t be.
i ve played against much better opponents in asso games and it didn t happen there, yet it happens now.
You blame the tactics, i blame this stupid game.
First of all, dear professional, you should know that association and competitions have different game engines. So, different calculations. Every game is different. Every opponent is different. Different tactics, different players. You cant go relaxed in the final because you have won 100 games !!! If formations, tactics and players, don't matter, then how you won those 100 games?? Magically??
Please my friend, learn how the game works and later insult me
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same formations, similar players, different score, different stats
yet people blame for me for picking this formation?
like really? do you want me to show you the other game he lost 5-0 with the same formation too?
WHY DOES THE GAME DECIDES TO TROLL ME IN THE CL FINAL?
IS IT PREMEDITATED? I AM 101% SURE IT IS
We are talking here about results in general and their outcomes, no matter the game engine.
2nd of all i ve played with this guy before and haters will say he had a worse team, but mine was worse too. bet you the difference was -15 back then i won the game.
So it s the same opponent, with the same tactics, with the same players with different stats.
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT?
OR DOES THIS NOT FIT YOUR AGENDA?
There is no same tactics. He should have played with different tactics. Players weren't the same. Different rating, different skills. Everything was different. Like I said, every game is different.
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Keep saying that to yourself, but no one would beat me in KO rounds, yet they have 90% chances to win against me in the final.
They become supertacticians overnight...
U can believe whatever u want xD
But dont expect trophies nor knowledge to come
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Oh god, Right I will say this anyway, I think, we should all calm down, yes a Final was lost to a weaker team which I do not think should have happened but it is just a final, move on.
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in 3 seasons of CL think i got only wins in KO stages, and 2 draws in group stages, but i ve never lost a game bar the finals.]
And it happened 2 times out of 3. so i have a 33% succes rate in winning a final.
How isn t that fishy? Why does every final i lose have to do with tactics but the game prior to that they don t?
ok but both don't use expressions that insult the other.
Look, I understand but I decided to move on from the game I understand it isn’t an isolation but you can’t change something that has happened, although I do agree something might have happened, it is over now, I am not siding with either of you here I am just saying it is better to leave this behind because the game finished about 5 hours ago and there is nothing you can do to change it. Look, yes unfortunately you lost your final and your perfect record [emoji53], but you can win next season, it is ok to lose sometimes but not in the way you did. Ok enough has been said on my part.
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There's one thing you can't do,and is play against the own game.25+ isn't a high distance since the beatability margin was increased till 60%. Your 9*s wherent selected for the engine to be determinant so they were discarded, and a empty midfield, starting with normal ment' which creates a empty space + 2 attack players discarded simply determinated the match.
Next time, start defensive. Test what side works better to focuss passing, check out well the possession bar to know where is the real center and try have the control by testing orders just for a few seconds, because u only need 2-3 seconds to switch to attacking and see the bar reaction. And if the game discard your 9*'s sub them.
Wait, what? I ve played against the game itself?
How does the discard players work? How is it related to football? What s my fault that the game decided to discard the players?
I think there is some AIDS behind the 2nd place in your group, both finals i lost were played against the 2nd place of my group. The one i won, the 2nd place lost in the semis.
Is this thing real? or is it happening just to me?
I scraped by the second place in the final, I got a lucky goal but the manager was pretty decent, around 10% weaker. The opposite happened to me, I lost a final in my 2nd season as a top eleven manager, and I was second in the group to a weaker team and I lost the final to him, Idid not care too much at the time as I won the league comfortably that season and made the cup Quarter Finals, I was proud of myself with that season a few years ago.
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You can learn, how the game works. Or you can play and go in your own. The variability of scenarios is created by selectig different players as protagonists, different conditionants, because this is a game, so basically a programmed engine which have parameters to do the simulation and create a realistic situation.
You need to play more.
Yes, the part that is a game i understand, but saying that the game decided to discard my Ronaldo and Bale because that s how it wants in order to keep it realistic, ohhhhhh hold down a second, it s absurde ! Big players play in big games, and that s what my Ronaldo did bar this game.
Saying that in order to understand this game more, i need to lose more finals because heck, that s what the game wants, to ruin your perfect season in the most important game, heheeeeee i don t want to.
Thank you but no thank you.
@khris
"you need to lose more CL finals to understand the game"-2020
This is not what Ive said, as always you have your own interpretation of all you read, which is curious. But if as you've said, this occured to you few times maybe you need to read others opinions and be a little bit more open minded.
Because not, a 9* itself, isn't a superstar here. This is not how it works and now you can play following the game direction or trying to play as you think that the game should work.
You came here for an explanation right? so yes, the explanation is that you need better T11 knowledge and isnt disrespectful, just a suggestion that can help you if you wanna enjoy the game.
I agree, Khris is right you shouldn’t be disrespectful to other members on the forum.
It does not set a good image for yourself I had 1 8 star player before and he was a flop he did nothing for me.
I understand you are frustrated @SuperDunk but express in a more friendly manner maybe?
It is just a bit of advice I do not want to start an argument [emoji3526]
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@Max my player scored 105 goals in 48 games bar this game, and almost 60 assists I think. I don t think it s the players overall performance problem here.
@khris last season I didn t had a problem since the 2nd place of my group got eliminated in the semifinals.
I ve also found out that there is some sort of rigged thing going around the same group scenario. I ve also lost to an old account in the CL final at lvl 2 against a 2nd place of MY GROUP, coincidence? Maybe
Happens against with this account at lvl 2? Wow, something suspicious.
Happens again with this account at lvl 4, wait hold on a bit. What kind of sorcery is this? As I said it before , this isn't a singular case, it s been done 3 times since I can remember.And my team playing **** in a single game in a season and only in this game tactics seem to work. Why should I bother with the rest of the season tho if only a game seems to matter here.
Yes, I ve been insulting mili whatever his name is, but to my extent I ve experienced lots of weird things going on with this game and the guy seemed to back up the game. What else did you expect? Give you flowers because you support a non sense game?
Idk, this one game a season it s the creme de la creme of stupid things this game has.
Might give up on this? Probably.
And I did change tactics when I conceded the first goal in the 2' minute, went to attacking mentality and attacking bonus, saw that at half time nothing happens , switched to high pressing and hard attacking with the same attacking bonus. I even put red arrows on the DMCs.
But wait, something did happened, I got a free kick, blasted it wide, again a better player than his while his guy scored , then my AMC and my best player respectively AML missed 2 headers. That were the only chances I got the rest of the game.
He wasted time in the last 10 mind by making 2 subs and the game went from 77 to 90 without displaying any animation. Yep, sure. Blame the tactics.
Somehow a guy I know plays it normal and is 3-0 down in the 75th minute, switches it to hard attacking and scores 3 goals in 6 minutes, again with much worse players than mine.
And I bring this into equation, because in reality Barcelona s result depend on how good Messi is, Liverpool s results on how good Salah and Mane are, Bayern how good Lewandowski is, Old Real Madrid on how CR7 was, Leicester on how good Vardy is.
This is the trend, your team should depend on your best players, not to disappear the entire game when it mattered.
Judging Liverpool winning the CL you say they deserve it because they have great squad, not 1 lucky player who made the game of his life.
@MaxMcclean
I didn't actually, couldn't believe the BS that happened to me, I was in shock. Like wtf dude, what is happening here?🙄🙄
I saw that I regained possession and I continuously attacked him , so something worked fine but the thing is I saw that I attacked him and I had the possession yet he had the ball in animations. Heheeeee
Spoiler alert, those tactical changes didn't made me equalize, it made him get more animations.
Liverpool were crap in the final but they deserved to win the CL to be fair because they defender very well and Tottenham couldn’t break through their defence, Alisson was unbeatable but it was a good all around performance from the team.
Back to the game scoring 3 goals in six minutes has happened to me frequently but in my favour, I changed the tempo vs weaker teams and won,
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Lol... I was sort of picturing you lose that game today, When I checked the result my thought became reality, you lost, I wonder if that might be an everlasting loop, you win the final next season and you lose it the season after only to win the final again only to lose again the following season, that would suck
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That was the worst final I have ever seen in my life, but my point is that people say Liverpool deserved to win because they have a great squad, especially that trio, and not they were lucky because of 1 player performance that is like Watford quality compared to mine.
I compare this final In real life football with Manchester City losing to Newcastle. It will never happen tho