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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    Nope, mate. It happens to me only in the CL finals, and apart of that specific game, i didn t see any big negatives in my tactics or my players performances.
    The fact that this happens in a single game, and under specific circumstances raises logical questions.
    I have to say that having 9* players in asso games wins you many games, in competiitve games all goes right apart when the game WANTS you to lose.
    As i said before, i don t really care about people defending this game , with stupid excuses that it happens to everyone, bla bla, big rating doesn t win you games bla bla, your tactics are ****, bla bla, if it happens every single time in this specific game it is tottally unacceptable and shouldn t be written over easily.
    I don't defend the game. This game is rng fest, that's why I also said that this result is nothing spectacular. It just could be your tactics, but then again you didn't know the opponents tactics (you can't, which is then again random) and people who try to "read" something from the ridiculous game animations are just lost imo.
    I mean the opponent won't have been in CL final for nothing. He will also be an more active player, get his bonus to 10% and setting up his team, he just doesn't have this high quality. You don't know how other opponents before were set up. I can just say that when both players are active and have their bonuses up, a 25% difference, some good skills and 2 9* players is (unfortunately) not enough to guarantee the victory. I'm fully on your site, I just don't understand why you make such a big deal out of it. For sure it is unlucky and frustrating, but it happened to everyone of us and we must deal with it as long as Nordeus doesn't change the game mechanics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    I don't defend the game. This game is rng fest, that's why I also said that this result is nothing spectacular. It just could be your tactics, but then again you didn't know the opponents tactics (you can't, which is then again random) and people who try to "read" something from the ridiculous game animations are just lost imo.
    I mean the opponent won't have been in CL final for nothing. He will also be an more active player, get his bonus to 10% and setting up his team, he just doesn't have this high quality. You don't know how other opponents before were set up. I can just say that when both players are active and have their bonuses up, a 25% difference, some good skills and 2 9* players is (unfortunately) not enough to guarantee the victory. I'm fully on your site, I just don't understand why you make such a big deal out of it. For sure it is unlucky and frustrating, but it happened to everyone of us and we must deal with it as long as Nordeus doesn't change the game mechanics.
    I make it a big deal because it happened for me twice in 3 seasons and with the same scenario: 2nd place of my group, didn t score a goal against me and suddenly turns superman in the final.
    It also happened to me with the prior account i ve had in 2018 , and also at lvl 2 and against the same 2nd place of my group.
    As far as i am concerned, i lost 3 out 5 CL finals with the same scenario, and my only wins came against managers from other groups.
    I m still around, LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    I make it a big deal because it happened for me twice in 3 seasons and with the same scenario: 2nd place of my group, didn t score a goal against me and suddenly turns superman in the final.
    It also happened to me with the prior account i ve had in 2018 , and also at lvl 2 and against the same 2nd place of my group.
    As far as i am concerned, i lost 3 out 5 CL finals with the same scenario, and my only wins came against managers from other groups.
    So you have lost 3/5 of all your finals or is it just with that scenario, I lost 3 out of 5, it whatever. I don’t care anymore I still got the trophy I wanted to win, I took nearly 2 years but I got it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    I make it a big deal because it happened for me twice in 3 seasons and with the same scenario: 2nd place of my group, didn t score a goal against me and suddenly turns superman in the final.
    It also happened to me with the prior account i ve had in 2018 , and also at lvl 2 and against the same 2nd place of my group.
    As far as i am concerned, i lost 3 out 5 CL finals with the same scenario, and my only wins came against managers from other groups.
    Maybe you found a new system in which second place of a group gets bonus in CL finals. lol
    But my CL won first place of a group, so I stay with my theory that it was just bad luck on your part, maybe Nordeus gives the opponent team a bonus in certain scenarios, no one knows how the match calculations work.
    Me and you, we can't change it. We know that every decision this company makes is to make players spend money. Maybe I play this game to long to care about such things. And yes, I'm still a dedicated manager, I have 9 star player myself, but I know he doesn't perform in some matches, I just improve my odds, that's all I can do.
    You must understand that in this game only teams blessed by Nordeus win trophies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Maybe you found a new system in which second place of a group gets bonus in CL finals. lol
    But my CL won first place of a group, so I stay with my theory that it was just bad luck on your part, maybe Nordeus gives the opponent team a bonus in certain scenarios, no one knows how the match calculations work.
    Me and you, we can't change it. We know that every decision this company makes is to make players spend money. Maybe I play this game to long to care about such things. And yes, I'm still a dedicated manager, I have 9 star player myself, but I know he doesn't perform in some matches, I just improve my odds, that's all I can do.
    You must understand that in this game only teams blessed by Nordeus win trophies.
    It might be random, although i lost the CL final 60% of the times. Maybe the game decided my best player to turn to ****, but that s the reason i had another legend, and AMC-131% ST-130% with 200+ stats , because i thought if a player goes missing then the other will take over.But it seems the game made all my attackers disappear misteriously.
    Had some games when i still dominated the opponent being 1 man down, just saying...
    I m still around, LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    It might be random, although i lost the CL final 60% of the times. Maybe the game decided my best player to turn to ****, but that s the reason i had another legend, and AMC-131% ST-130% with 200+ stats , because i thought if a player goes missing then the other will take over.But it seems the game made all my attackers disappear misteriously.
    Had some games when i still dominated the opponent being 1 man down, just saying...
    I lost 3/5 of my CL Finals Too! I got unlucky in those first 3 and I liked to have a rant to support about it at the time lol, they would say the same, thing as Der_Ryan_M said, we do not really know how the game engine really operates in the finals only Nordeus really knows the answers to these questions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDunk View Post
    It might be random, although i lost the CL final 60% of the times. Maybe the game decided my best player to turn to ****, but that s the reason i had another legend, and AMC-131% ST-130% with 200+ stats , because i thought if a player goes missing then the other will take over.But it seems the game made all my attackers disappear misteriously.
    Had some games when i still dominated the opponent being 1 man down, just saying...
    Yeah, I had this as well, the red card doesn't change the game most of the times.
    The more you play the more you will understand this game. You can take this game as it is or rage about it, which doesn't help. Of course the final in CL or cup you get potentially a more active and better opponent. But in this game, in a single game anything is possible. The rounds before you have 2 games, it is easier to advance. I had rounds where I won a game 10-1 and lost the second leg 0-1 with same formations, tactics and so on.
    It's just the game, that's why at the beginning I said welcome to Top Eleven. It is a game, where you improve your odds to be succesful, but there is no guarantee. That's why I often disagree with milpol or The Prof as well, who analyse every poppycock of the game and its animations, it doesn't make sense in my opinion, but of course everyone is free to play the game his own way and if it works for them, fine. At the end Nordeus will have the game programmed in a way, that every player stays motivated and feels the need to buy a monthly card and Token from time to time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Maybe you found a new system in which second place of a group gets bonus in CL finals. lol
    But my CL won first place of a group, so I stay with my theory that it was just bad luck on your part, maybe Nordeus gives the opponent team a bonus in certain scenarios, no one knows how the match calculations work.
    Me and you, we can't change it. We know that every decision this company makes is to make players spend money. Maybe I play this game to long to care about such things. And yes, I'm still a dedicated manager, I have 9 star player myself, but I know he doesn't perform in some matches, I just improve my odds, that's all I can do.
    You must understand that in this game only teams blessed by Nordeus win trophies.
    I only had 2 seasons where I was ‘blessed by Nordeus’ then. Didn’t win A Champions League until October, I then won those 2 in a row.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    I don't defend the game. This game is rng fest, that's why I also said that this result is nothing spectacular. It just could be your tactics, but then again you didn't know the opponents tactics (you can't, which is then again random) and people who try to "read" something from the ridiculous game animations are just lost imo.
    I mean the opponent won't have been in CL final for nothing. He will also be an more active player, get his bonus to 10% and setting up his team, he just doesn't have this high quality. You don't know how other opponents before were set up. I can just say that when both players are active and have their bonuses up, a 25% difference, some good skills and 2 9* players is (unfortunately) not enough to guarantee the victory. I'm fully on your site, I just don't understand why you make such a big deal out of it. For sure it is unlucky and frustrating, but it happened to everyone of us and we must deal with it as long as Nordeus doesn't change the game mechanics.
    I never defended the game and yes this is nothing spectacular, in my early days here which was not to long ago, I was so entitled and I had a meltdown about a 0-0 draw vs a -15% team lol, I am ashamed of that, that thread was comedy for everybody else who responded to it, now I really don’t care if I were to lose or draw a match because at the end of the day, it is just a virtual game and it is pretty much a manager simulator. (I am captain obvious haha)




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