Why manipulating draws might actually diminish your fun

[Sillybq]

@ Mihai

And i thought you were a fair player to judge me like you did. Gunning for top 10 in associations and frustrated are we?
It looks like you too embrace tanking, manipulating and upselling. Not getting fair draws for your 5 star association in platinum and whining about it in the bugs section. Stop wasting their time! All the pictures of your competitors, you are no better. There are many associations struggling to survive in platinum, get bad draws yet do not complain like you. Pathetic is best reserved for you.

[Mihai Razvan]

@ Mihai

And i thought you were a fair player to judge me like you did. Gunning for top 10 in associations and frustrated are we?
It looks like you too embrace tanking, manipulating and upselling. Not getting fair draws for your 5 star association in platinum and whining about it in the bugs section. Stop wasting their time! All the pictures of your competitors, you are no better. There are many associations struggling to survive in platinum, get bad draws yet do not complain like you. Pathetic is best reserved for you.

Look quality of that account 105% , not 180%
+ we have 5* association all opponent 6*

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[Mihai Razvan]

That one it's my second account, where I play with my friends, I play only association, but I not screw other players from win the cup or ucl, we play for fun
It's a big difference
My 1 st account it's in x-terminator 2
But I have many account, maybe up to 20

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[maloukees]

That one it's my second account, where I play with my friends, I play only association, but I not screw other players from win the cup or ucl, we play for fun
It's a big difference
My 1 st account it's in x-terminator 2
But I have many account, maybe up to 20

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Wow you have 20 accounts how you manage them all?

[Sillybq]

That one it's my second account, where I play with my friends, I play only association, but I not screw other players from win the cup or ucl, we play for fun
It's a big difference
My 1 st account it's in x-terminator 2
But I have many account, maybe up to 20

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Whatever mate. Going through the past seasons threads, I can see many players won trophies while tanking. Your thoughts that it is pathetic is obviously not in line with many players. So its just your opinion.

You're the kind of player who ruins associations. I doubt it is considered a lesser evil. When I manipulate at level 6, I play mostly bots and abandoned teams and maybe 3 to 5 players in CL or Cup who log in a few times a week. I hurt less players with what I do. You on the other hand affect active players who make it to platinum depriving them of a spot. To me, its debatable who is a bigger dick.

My opinion is nothing of what we are doing is wrong as long as the system allows it and we go by the rules. To prevent what I am doing, Nordeus could easily just promote all teams who win any other tournament despite not finishing in top 8. Same goes for your association manipulation. Only let teams who have been promoted in the previous season join an association. All who tanked will just automatically get booted out and cannot join till next season.

Frankly speaking who likes losing to much weaker abandoned teams or bots. These exploits are like a free pass for active players. And they all require extra work. Upselling is tough, multiple accounts and watching lots of videos and tons of training. Can be done without multiple accounts but higher greys are useless and do not help with manipulating draws. Manipulation is hours at auction and tons of training as well asap. Tanking is the easiest but still requires a log in and a switch of players if participating in CL and Cup.

But it is a fact that players like you who operate 20 accounts and watch videos are assets to the game. You make more money for them. Much more than I do with my 2 accounts, 1 of which doesn't even watch videos. I assume you watch videos and upsell since you have so many 19 year old 9 star players.

Take away any one of the exploits Tanking, Manipulating and Upselling and there will be a sudden drop in daily active accounts. Changes have to be made slowly and progressively. Especially so if players who use exploits are core contributors to the company revenue stream.

If I were to suggest, what is most important in order to not lose players is to fix top of the server issues. Do something to improve it so players don't play each other month after month fight for the same few trophies.

[Mihai Razvan]

Most of them I use for collect tokens, for emblem and t-shirt, with other I play event from the game ...

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[ChocoLove]

Oi lads

Sent from stupid app stop revealing my phone's name.

[HeavensAAA]

Having as many as 20 accounts by 1 single individual in itself may already be in breach of T&Cs of TE, Facebook and/or Apple ID.

It is well known that Facebook does not allow duplicate profiles of any single individual. It is really difficult to create multiple emails and then Apple IDs without having multiple phone numbers for verification from a single IP address. And unless you have some 15 different devices to ‘Play as Guest’, and that is highly unlikely too.

Moderators should really look into this seriously as TE could be in real trouble if they knowingly allow individuals to abuse and manipulate those multiple logins when Facebook and Apple ID logins are concerned.

[Mihai Razvan]

I don't do upseling, that player's are not made with upseling, it cost me 6 thousand greens, I have a life, I don't collect thousands greens per day, I have 30 years old, I have a wife, I have a job, I told you I have more account only for tokens and for buy emblem and t shirt how it was last event, and it's very easy to do that, you can find very easy some abandoned association gold 1 or gold 2, where you put account and after in friday you give condition and morale, and that's everything I do
I don't do upseling even at my 1 st account, upseling it's not because I don't like, but those player's are not good anymore, I have one friend with 340% white skills and quality 170% ( he play on last level of his server , not tanker) but guess what there is another player 170% quality, but he grow his player's with $$$, and guess what , this player who put money in the game, he smashed him 5-0,5-1,4-0,1-0, and possession of the ball its every time up to 60-65% for the guy with money, so Nordeus help those managers

But upseling for me it's not good, and I tell you why. Why should i invest 4 5 thousand greens in one player, when with 5k I can create 5 player? In my opinion average win against quality, mean If i meet 1 mutant and his quality is 80% and my quality its 120%, i will defeat him, i test it with team from top 100 ...

You take it so seriously mate with that word, nobody cares about us, nordeus care only for profit.

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[Sillybq]

I don't do upseling, that player's are not made with upseling, it cost me 6 thousand greens, I have a life, I don't collect thousands greens per day, I have 30 years old, I have a wife, I have a job, I told you I have more account only for tokens and for buy emblem and t shirt how it was last event, and it's very easy to do that, you can find very easy some abandoned association gold 1 or gold 2, where you put account and after in friday you give condition and morale, and that's everything I do
I don't do upseling even at my 1 st account, upseling it's not because I don't like, but those player's are not good anymore, I have one friend with 340% white skills and quality 170% ( he play on last level of his server , not tanker) but guess what there is another player 170% quality, but he grow his player's with $$$, and guess what , this player who put money in the game, he smashed him 5-0,5-1,4-0,1-0, and possession of the ball its every time up to 60-65% for the guy with money, so Nordeus help those managers

But upseling for me it's not good, and I tell you why. Why should i invest 4 5 thousand greens in one player, when with 5k I can create 5 player? In my opinion average win against quality, mean If i meet 1 mutant and his quality is 80% and my quality its 120%, i will defeat him, i test it with team from top 100 ...

You take it so seriously mate with that word, nobody cares about us, nordeus care only for profit.

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Is it really about the money? I read that mutants get penalised by getting trolled often especially in CL thats why alot of people are training greys as well. Anyway if you do not upsell, you will still need to downsell and transfer tokens to your main to buy greens. That method cant make much anymore with only 1 player a season limit per team. 6k greens? How many seasons to save that? Tank?