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    To each his own. I still have fun and am happy playing the way i like which is manipulating. I am still proud of what i have accomplished and i think the higher level players who i try to copy like Nik and Zaf should be proud of their teams as well. Anyway the kings of manipulation are the greeks since they dominate the top 100. I doubt any of them are not proud of their success.

    It is good that all of us have different preferences or else i will be meeting fellow manipulators every season. That would suck. I would be happier if everyone stopped manipulating as well. Makes my game alot easier. Who wants to lose often and get frustrated? Its a game and should be easy and enjoyable.
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    I'm agree with you guy's, the biggest problem, it's not manipulation
    The biggest problem it's tanker s, top 100 association, why nordeus they don't do anything with those team???
    And something else what I saw , if you put money in the game, you have very huge advantage against other manager
    And last , there are more manager games where you see real team name , emblem official t-shirt, 3D graphics, but here nothing, everything what they change it's only for them, probably soon I will stop to play this "joke" ,
    from this season both association play against biggest opponent +20/30% all
    At last event I spent over 200 tokens, only to get the emblem, I change formation ,tactics, everything nothing works, they injury my best player every time, I got red card, but from that team nothing, no injuries no red card , even yellow cards
    It's good because they have in the market few team s with same t shirt from 5 year s ago
    I hope soon they will put tax for login, and nobody will play this "joke,"(game)
    They stop greens from 2 version, but even if you can take 25 greens + 15 on the player you must to wait 24 hours, why???? You think we can stay every day to take those green when you want??? We have a life!! We have family, jobs, child. The game start to be "communism", not "democracy"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diglett View Post
    The game is somewhat scarce to experience so called experiments anyway. Why going after frustration when you can definitely have fun by winning?
    It isn’t really frustration, some people like to manipulate to avoid harder +1 level opponents, others decide not to and avoid manipulation.

    Why people think it is not fun by winning by manipulation is due to the fact you could be playing completely abandoned teams and therefore it could become boring winning against those sort of teams.

    But again people have reasons on why they want to manipulate and it does take hard work in the first day.
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    Silly for you " take a break ", mean you should play Champions league, Cup , Super Cup, and association, but tank in the league, pathetic...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihai Razvan View Post
    Silly for you " take a break ", mean you should play Champions league, Cup , Super Cup, and association, but tank in the league, pathetic...

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    That’s how the most successful clubs in the game play. If it wasn’t supposed to be this way, don’t you think Nordeus would have fixed it by now?

    You’re the pathetic one, expecting everyone to play the way you think is right. Who cares if i win 3 trophies during a tanking season? Why are you bothered by how others play their game? You should play in a way that suits you and be happy. If you are so competitive and seeing others win trophies affects you, adapt and compete!

    Trophies mean nothing unless you are guilty of judging others based on it. They are for our personal fulfilment. Some of the most respected players in the game have very few trophies. It does not define us so stop being abusive and insecure. Let others enjoy the game as they see fit.

    Everyone here will eventually face tankers. I will have to face manipulating tankers as well. I ain’t going to come here and take it out on fellow forumers who are honest about their playing style. We just have to rise to the occasion and compete.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    @Mihai

    That’s how the most successful clubs in the game play. If it wasn’t supposed to be this way, don’t you think Nordeus would have fixed it by now?

    You’re the pathetic one, expecting everyone to play the way you think is right. Who cares if i win 3 trophies during a tanking season? Why are you bothered by how others play their game? You should play in a way that suits you and be happy. If you are so competitive and seeing others win trophies affects you, adapt and compete!

    Trophies mean nothing unless you are guilty of judging others based on it. They are for our personal fulfilment. Some of the most respected players in the game have very few trophies. It does not define us so stop being abusive and insecure. Let others enjoy the game as they see fit.

    Everyone here will eventually face tankers. I will have to face manipulating tankers as well. I ain’t going to come here and take it out on fellow forumers who are honest about their playing style. We just have to rise to the occasion and compete.
    True, people should be able to play in whatever way they please, I admit I am guilty of judging by trophies but I am over that now, I have lost to a few teams that haven’t won much compared to me (not saying I won much at all though) and they outplayed me in every field despite being weaker. I had one case that I have told you about before where I was going for the title and on an unbeaten streak, he had no trophies and committed 4 fouls in 23 tackles and won the match so FairPlay.

    Finally, you shouldn’t judge people on how they play as everyone has a “unique” style of play.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    True, people should be able to play in whatever way they please, I admit I am guilty of judging by trophies but I am over that now, I have lost to a few teams that haven’t won much compared to me (not saying I won much at all though) and they outplayed me in every field despite being weaker. I had one case that I have told you about before where I was going for the title and on an unbeaten streak, he had no trophies and committed 4 fouls in 23 tackles and won the match so FairPlay.

    Finally, you shouldn’t judge people on how they play as everyone has a “unique” style of play.




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    Yea mate. All of us live different lives and have different commitment levels and our trophies are often reflective of that. I have not even tanked before and he calls me pathetic. Who knows, i might not even have the time to manage while on holiday. And frankly i could easily have kept my mouth shut or worse, be pretentious about it.

    For the losses you mentioned, if they were against abandoned team or bot, i can understand the frustration. I wouldn’t say that is judging or looking down on our competition in those circumstances. Its tough when getting trolled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihai Razvan View Post
    Silly for you " take a break ", mean you should play Champions league, Cup , Super Cup, and association, but tank in the league, pathetic...

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    Look, people take breaks and they can do what they like, In Sillybq’s case whenever he wants to take a break which is fine, he still wants to win trophies and his solution is to tank which is fine, he can cut down on half the training and bonuses needed, we don’t have to be active all the time and for everyday of our lives, yes I have been very active on the forum lately, but am hagen’t on the game, I am taking it easy and supporting in game friends, but eventually I will stop posting for a couple of weeks or months when I have my summer break.

    His solution can be positive for some reasons as you probably know. I don’t know why I should even be going through these but here we go.

    1. Gaining resources.
    2. Tanking does wreck your record somewhat but not completely if you do not log in at all for significant periods of time, and this also ensures that the user can go back to participating in all 4 competitions when he is finished his/her break if he/she won the champions league/super league.
    3. Less training.

    4. Adding more trophies to your cabinet.

    5. Players will not lose quality so they do not have to buy any players if they choose not to.

    6. If you renew the tokens and money then the user will have lots of money and tokens to use.

    7. Many more that I couldn’t be bothered to list right now.

    People have their playing styles and you should respect it. Only if they are breaching rules then Nordeus will ban them, they haven’t cracked down on tanking so therefore it is still “legal” in the game.

    Sillybq can do what he wants; and he chooses how he plays.

    Good luck for the rest of the season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Max McClean View Post
    Look, people take breaks and they can do what they like, In Sillybq’s case whenever he wants to take a break which is fine, he still wants to win trophies and his solution is to tank which is fine, he can cut down on half the training and bonuses needed, we don’t have to be active all the time and for everyday of our lives, yes I have been very active on the forum lately, but am hagen’t on the game, I am taking it easy and supporting in game friends, but eventually I will stop posting for a couple of weeks or months when I have my summer break.

    His solution can be positive for some reasons as you probably know. I don’t know why I should even be going through these but here we go.

    1. Gaining resources.
    2. Tanking does wreck your record somewhat but not completely if you do not log in at all for significant periods of time, and this also ensures that the user can go back to participating in all 4 competitions when he is finished his/her break if he/she won the champions league/super league.
    3. Less training.

    4. Adding more trophies to your cabinet.

    5. Players will not lose quality so they do not have to buy any players if they choose not to.

    6. If you renew the tokens and money then the user will have lots of money and tokens to use.

    7. Many more that I couldn’t be bothered to list right now.

    People have their playing styles and you should respect it. Only if they are breaching rules then Nordeus will ban them, they haven’t cracked down on tanking so therefore it is still “legal” in the game.

    Sillybq can do what he wants; and he chooses how he plays.

    Good luck for the rest of the season.


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    Point 2 is interesting. If you recall, I did ask about it before. But because i want the resources, i will be taking the losses.

    Yep i am aware that I should not affect the league fight which could get me banned but other competitions are free for all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sillybq View Post
    Point 2 is interesting. If you recall, I did ask about it before. But because i want the resources, i will be taking the losses.

    Yep i am aware that I should not affect the league fight which could get me banned but other competitions are free for all.
    You can get resources if you log in and get daily gifts from in game friends or you can watch ads and from daily log ins is where you can get them during period you are tanking.

    You can only get banned from competitions is if you a user reports you Nordeus support, but most likely they will do nothing about it so don’t worry about that.

    You can only get banned if someone reports you and Nordeus check your team and sees its buildup as suspicious.


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