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    Fast trainers in L4 and higher?.

    Hello,

    Are there any fast trainers in L4 and higher? Seems like since I have jumped to this new level, even in the negotiations tab, there are no fast trainers. The highest value to wage ometv chatroulette chat avenue ratio I've seen is about 28. I have one guy (an exception) who is currently at 912 ratio. He earns about 3-4 times as much as the others per training.

    But I've heard that above 30 they are considered a fast trainer, and I have yet to see that when scoping for new players.

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    iosman
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    These values change for every level. See the following chart to find the values for your level:
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post500463

    Fast trainers can be found at any level. At early levels like yours, they can be easily spotted through value/wage, but it get's more difficult, up to impossible to spot in very high levels. At my level of 27, I cannot effectively spot them anymore. So I buy every 18yo 3* player for the position that I want and I train a new role/ability on them with a very hard drill to see how fast they train, until I found my fast trainer.

    Best of luck!
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    I am Level 4 and my top 14 players are only fast trainers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Polotoed View Post
    These values change for every level. See the following chart to find the values for your level:
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post500463

    Fast trainers can be found at any level. At early levels like yours, they can be easily spotted through value/wage, but it get's more difficult, up to impossible to spot in very high levels. At my level of 27, I cannot effectively spot them anymore. So I buy every 18yo 3* player for the position that I want and I train a new role/ability on them with a very hard drill to see how fast they train, until I found my fast trainer.

    Best of luck!
    Are you buying 3* players because you're unable to spot the 5* fast trainers, that 3* are cheaper or any other reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddharth Singh View Post
    I am Level 4 and my top 14 players are only fast trainers.
    I'm impressed that you're able to maintain 14 players with rest packs. I don't have any experience with it, but how many rest packs do you on average invest in each FT when you have that many?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arphaxad View Post
    I'm impressed that you're able to maintain 14 players with rest packs. I don't have any experience with it, but how many rest packs do you on average invest in each FT when you have that many?
    You can farm 40 rest packs daily and even if you don't invest anything in fast trainers they can gain a star in a season.

    I feed the daily 14 non storable rest to each of my fast trainers. This also helps on keeping my players in good condition before a match.

    I invest some extra greens in my attacking fast trainers until I reach 140 percent attack with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siddharth Singh View Post
    You can farm 40 rest packs daily and even if you don't invest anything in fast trainers they can gain a star in a season.

    I feed the daily 14 non storable rest to each of my fast trainers. This also helps on keeping my players in good condition before a match.

    I invest some extra greens in my attacking fast trainers until I reach 140 percent attack with them.
    40 rest packs daily not including the non storables? I can get 25 from watching videos.

    As for the 140; do you stop when the attacking white skills are at 140 or when the average of the attacking skills is 140 (depending on position that might be the same thing) or do you go for 140 for all white skills?

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    You can get 15 more green packs if you click on a player and form there click to increase his condition. You will get 2 options.

    1) To increase condition by the condition pack your have in storage.

    2) Increase condition by watching a video.

    But you can only get a total of 40 videos daily. With this trick you can farm 40 green boosters.

    I prefer to stop when my attacking white skills reach 140 percent. But it depends upon individual preference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Polotoed View Post
    These values change for every level. See the following chart to find the values for your level:
    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post500463

    Fast trainers can be found at any level. At early levels like yours, they can be easily spotted through value/wage, but it get's more difficult, up to impossible to spot in very high levels. At my level of 27, I cannot effectively spot them anymore. So I buy every 18yo 3* player for the position that I want and I train a new role/ability on them with a very hard drill to see how fast they train, until I found my fast trainer.

    Best of luck!
    But don’t players with 3* gain faster than 5* per some post I read somewhere. How can u spot them? How hard u train them for a SA? 15 or 18 loss in fatigue?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iosman001 View Post
    Hello,

    Are there any fast trainers in L4 and higher? Seems like since I have jumped to this new level, even in the negotiations tab, there are no fast trainers. The highest value to wage ratio I've seen is about 28. I have one guy (an exception) who is currently at 912 ratio. He earns about 3-4 times as much as the others per training.

    But I've heard that above 30 they are considered a fast trainer, and I have yet to see that when scoping for new players.

    thanks
    iosman
    Just to confirm, the wage is now irrelevant. The ratio between value and wage used to be the way to spot fast trainers but now it's just based on the value... and has been for quite a long time. So at level 4 you're looking for 18 year olds with a value between 7.5 and 8M. Forget about the value to wage ratio.

    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...tml#post500463

    There are some spreadsheets out there that help you understand the top values at lower qualities (e.g. what value you should be looking for in an 18 year old, 3*).

    https://forum.topeleven.com/tutorial...rs-finder.html