It is quite difficult to understand why Nordeus would launch a new feature, then expect all managers to go through the pains without having explained what would happen to their teams and players, and also have to learn how to cope with this new barrier to winning matches. Exciting? Not many would agree.
It would be great if managers could share their experience here and everyone could handle all the hampering effects earlier.
Great thread. Looking forward to the replies. Let's try to understand that new feature together. Any tips/observations are welcome
I m going to be really surprised if they aren t cosmetic.
Hey guys,
Every Manager takes all the factors they find important into consideration and decides on his own tactics and at the end of the day, every team is different. With this in mind, we only want to share some tips and tricks for the Weather Condition and leave it up to you to find the best tactics that suit your team.
- make a new habit to check the weather ahead of every match.
- tap on the weather icon to read additional info.
- ideal weather is better than ever before and the most common. Your players will be ready to give their best so try to use this to your advantage.
League game, ideal weather. High pressing and man-to-man marking.
=> Condition loss was 20-31% for players that played 90 minutes
It would be nice, if some people would share short reports like the one above.
In ideal weather, it seems condition loss is less than in the previous version. Maximum loss with the same settings was 34%, usually for about 2-4 players.
I’m curious about the experience of other managers.
Cup semi final, raining, condition loss no different, ball stuck when passing on animation, biggest change was getting 3 yellows when on Easy tackling
I suspect some players who are used to living in rainy cities play well in the rain.
Great idea with a short report for easy reading and comparison!Quote:
Originally Posted by Guido van den Berg
Sample template (for those who may want to do some stats later)
Match Type: League/Cup/CL or SL
Weather conditions:
Pressing type & Marking Style:
Passing type:
Player condition loss range for full match:
Match result vs typical result:
Comment & Notes:
Played on hot with high press. One central defender went from green to orange.
Match Type: Cup semi-finals 1st leg
Weather conditions: Rain
Pressing type & Marking Style: high pressing, man-2-man marking
Player condition loss range for full match: 26-39%
Match result vs typical result: 1-6 away victory, normal result
Comment & Notes: 1 player injured
Match Type: Cup semi-finals 1st leg
Weather conditions: Ideal
Pressing type & Marking Style: high pressing, man-to-man marking
Passing type: mixed
Player condition loss range for full match: 20-31%
Match result vs typical result: 10-0, great result!
Comment & Notes: 2nd team
Match Type: Cup
Weather conditions: Rain
Pressing type & Marking Style: low & zonal
Passing type: Long
Player condition loss range for full match: I don't know
Match result vs typical result: lose 4-1 - we've same percentage
Comment & Notes: I don't understand if the ball slipped faster or froze.
Good thread,
I don't have rainy match for few next maches, but I advice you to experiment with long balls, hard tackling and normal to attacking play..
Match Type: League
Weather conditions: Rainy
Pressing type & Marking Style: Low pressing & Zonal
Passing type: Long
Player condition loss range for full match: 14%-25%
Match result vs typical result: 11-0, better than typical 6-7 goals margins
Comment & Notes: No ball stuck-at-feet issue; best attacker first 6-goal spree
Match Type: Cup
Weather conditions: Rainy
Pressing type & Marking Style: High & MTM
Passing type: Long
Player condition loss range for full match: 28-39
Match result vs typical result: Won 2-1. Typically I would win by a bigger margin
Comments: Only equalised and scored another upon switching to short passing
Match Type: Friendly Cup
Weather conditions: Hot
Pressing type & Marking Style: low & zonal
Passing type: Long
Player condition loss range for full match: around 25-26%
Match result vs typical result: lose 4-0 - I'm 30% lower then my opponent
Comment & Notes: I don't know if this is the same for real matches
Match Type: League - I'm 102%, opposition 77%
Weather conditions: Hot
Pressing type & Marking Style: High & man-to-man
Passing type: Mixed
Player condition loss range for full match: 25-30%
Match result: Drew 1-1, won last time I played that team
Comment & Notes: Strange game. I expected to win by 5 or 6. Had a 1-0 lead until the 85th minute. Didn't really challenge the goal, missed a pen. Won't be using those tactics again in hot conditions...in a game in January taking place in England
I'm not sure, but so far it seems like hot drains a little bit more condition than the rest. On the other side, it looks like ideal weather consumes less condition than before.
Match Type: CL quarter-finals 1st leg
Weather conditions: Ideal
Pressing type & Marking Style: high pressing, man-to-man marking
Passing type: mixed
Player condition loss range for full match: 20-30%
Match result vs typical result: regular 0-4 win
Comments & Notes: 2nd team
Another question here - Where is your club located in game (not the manager nationality, but the city you have selected) and which wheather conditions do you have for the rest of the season in your home games?
My club and stadium is located in Spain and I have 9x hot and 7x normal wheather in the remaining games. Never rain or cold, which is interesting. I only have this in some of my away games... What do you have left?
Match Type: League
Weather conditions: Ideal
Pressing type & Marking Style: low pressing, zonal marking
Passing type: long
Player condition loss range for full match: 17-22%
Match result vs typical result: 8-0 win, so many goals vs ~35% weaker
Comments & Notes:
Question from my side. I have the same weather condition for all games in a day. These are 3 of 4 games, including friendly championship.
Today is ideal.
Tomorrow is cold.
Saturday is ideal,
Sunday is ideal.
Monday is cold.
Tuesday is ideal.
Wednesday is ideal.
Last 3 days of the season are yet undecided.
Is this just a coincidence, or do others experience this as well?
By the way, I’m located in Alkmaar, The Netherlands.
I hate this as well! Really disappoints me! I'm in England and my first home match today was Hot! Like nah, it's 0c outside guys. It doesn't feel realistic and that disappoints me. What next? I'll probably get two home games, 6 hours apart. One hot, one cold!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
If realistic, then my north Russian team will play in snow most of the time with ball stuck in snow?Quote:
Originally Posted by mattyg1306
I have almost all games (incl. all my home games) in ideal or hot, except 1 rainy and 1 cold away games (both are “in Russia”). I also have a hot weather in UK in another away game. Is it possible that Nordeus thinks UK (and some other countries) are in Southern hemisphere? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
Those days are just selected randomly. You can live in Mozambique, you will still play few days on cold and rainy weather
------------ Ideal whether -----------
Note:
Tried in every competition.
Ideal whether is same as every game in the last version (TE 2020).
There's no change in anything EXCEPT bonuses during the match. Possession is the best bonus you can use in ideal whether as what I tested. ( I'm not the type of players who love possession but I'll play it for more wins XD).
I'll write everything I notice here and it's up to you. Have a nice day and good luck in your upcoming matches!!!!
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Lol, Nordeus thinks Canada is a tropical country as my home games are either hot or ideal while my away game in Kenya is cold!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sinany03
Hi guys,
Top eleven mentioned yesterday on their Facebook live that your nationality doesn't have an impact on the weather. All is random, based on the season day.
Cheers.
Nationality ok. It’s not like my Surinam neighbor experiences other weather than my Polish neighbor.Quote:
Originally Posted by milpol
But what about your location?
I think that would not have been the right idea.
Some managers would be constantly facing the same type of weather. Rainy days all the time. Would you like that? Or constant hot temperatures, which means more condition drop, as far as we know yet.
I strongly believe it has to do with RNG. Throughout the season, you will have X amount of rainy days, Y of hot, Z of ideal, V of cold.
So everyone will go through all the weather conditions roughly
Hey guys, the weather conditions are connected to the Top Eleven season only and are not based on the real life weather of your location, as Milpol clarified in the previous message. That way, the overall balance of the weather throughout the season can be maintained, and Managers across the globe have equal opportunities when it comes to the types of weather conditions on matchdays. Also as some of you noticed, the same weather applies to all home matches within one season day.
I did two proof with friendly matches.
Information:
In both cases, my team had full condition (99%), full morale (Superb) and total possession bonus +4% for home.
The difference of average quality is 42% (me 68% and opposite team 110%). And both friendly matches was did with same players and same formations.
Weather: Cold
+++ First friendly match +++
Team Mentality: Attacking
Passing style: Mixed
Pressing style: Low
Marking style: Zonal
Play Offside trap: On
Result: defeat, 0-4
In the second attempt, I changed only pressing style, from low to high.
+++ Second friendly match +++
Team Mentality: Attacking
Passing style: Mixed
Pressing style: HIGH
Marking style: Zonal
Play Offside trap: On
Result: defeat, 0-6
I supposed that pressing style doesn't affect the cold weather
Does anyone think this makes any different to the outcome of a game? Totally underwhelmed by this ‘feature’.
No one knows, because Nordeus doesn't really tell. The only thing that is noticably different is the amount of condition the players lose. Apart from that, the tactical aspects of the game were always strange to me and now even more random maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen Cained
Quote:
Originally Posted by Citizen Cained
Because of the randomness of troll results at times, it probably takes a full season or more of results sharing to identify a more consistent pattern of how the weather conditions could affect match results by trialling different passing variation, pressing type and/or marking type.Quote:
Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M
Theoretically rainy weather makes control harder and short passing harder, so long passing should make sense? It is still a puzzle for me on what to do with cold weather (tense player feeling chilly? Does that mean players couldn’t accelerate as quickly and so should use short passing more!?).
As most have probably experienced, the most obvious is the extra 10-15% drop in conditions under hot weather and even worse when using high pressing. In hot weather, switching to a defensive setup with low pressing to score via counter, plus earlier 60-min subs, may be the way forward in saving conditions when facing weak opponents.
No sean payasos muchachos! El cambio del clima es totalmente cosmético.
It is rather obvious that match results have been impacted by weather conditions other than ideal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Iron Lion
You could choose to believe otherwise, play matches as if weather conditions do not exist and that is more than fine. Calling fellow managers who are willing to share their observations clowns is really rude and unnecessary. Save those impoliteness for yourself.
Match Type: League, away
Weather conditions: Rainy
Pressing type & Marking Style: Low, Area
Passing type: Mixed
Player condition loss range for full match:17-25%
Match result vs typical result: 0:4 win, normal
Comment & Notes: Yellow card*1, I'm higher 20% than oppos.
Played in cold weather with mixed passing and it was a goal bonanza - a ten goal thriller.
I do see the point of this. But in the real world, the same conditions can happen. If I was in a country which maintained the same conditions throughout the year, I'd love that because it intensifies the home advantage. I could sort out my tactics and leave them alone while visitors struggle to find the right options. TE is worldwide, with 50% away matches so it's not like the player won't miss out on other conditions.Quote:
Originally Posted by milpol
The only area I see a problem is if it's hot most of the year-round in their location, they'd struggle in terms of condition. Maybe in that case, players get more fitness % gains from matches in hot conditions and therefore the players become accustomed to this feature. I dunno, just my opinion. I guess I'm a realist. Maybe it's not the majority view which is fair enough.