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    Cant be pay to win when so many people complain about random results and losing/drawing to much weaker teams. But if 2 players at lower levels with the same amount of time, effort and managerial skills square off. My money is on the guy who pays.

    High levels is a whole different story. More about how many accounts you control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsiderSG View Post
    Cant be pay to win when so many people complain about random results and losing/drawing to much weaker teams. But if 2 players at lower levels with the same amount of time, effort and managerial skills square off. My money is on the guy who pays.

    High levels is a whole different story. More about how many accounts you control.
    Maybe TS means is "you pay but you still get random results" ,yes many pay/active managers beaten by idle team etc (pay here is paying to nords not players), and also multiple accounts is considered as pay to win too, maybe, buy acc etc , ofc if you do upselling with them. ofc its not wrong to upselling, but the amount of collected daily greens between normal players and multiple acc is huge. and nords does not ban them , so its ok to do
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    Quote Originally Posted by WalkingPenguin View Post
    Maybe TS means is "you pay but you still get random results" ,yes many pay/active managers beaten by idle team etc (pay here is paying to nords not players), and also multiple accounts is considered as pay to win too, maybe, buy acc etc , ofc if you do upselling with them. ofc its not wrong to upselling, but the amount of collected daily greens between normal players and multiple acc is huge. and nords does not ban them , so its ok to do
    Yeah, multiple accounts require alot of time especially for upselling. Anyway to keep things on point. I used to follow a player called LAKIS who was paying alot to win and he won almost everything. Saw a post saying he was a doctor who invested alot of money into the game. Like i said, things turn ugly at the top so its pay to win till then. Skills, effort and time makes up for money so we can still beat money players who think spending automatically equates to winning. Frankly even the best lose a few matches so let's manage our expectations
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsiderSG View Post
    Yeah, multiple accounts require alot of time especially for upselling. Anyway to keep things on point. I used to follow a player called LAKIS who was paying alot to win and he won almost everything. Saw a post saying he was a doctor who invested alot of money into the game. Like i said, things turn ugly at the top so its pay to win till then. Skills, effort and time makes up for money so we can still beat money players with little knowledge.
    He is now about to reach top of the server, 1 level below. I know him as well, because a friend plays him now. He has a crazy record and so many trophies...

    But come on, generally TE is a very friendly game when it comes to free to play. There are tons of worse games out there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    He is now about to reach top of the server, 1 level below. I know him as well, because a friend plays him now. He has a crazy record and so many trophies...

    But come on, generally TE is a very friendly game when it comes to free to play. There are tons of worse games out there.
    Nowonder he has not been winning as much as before. Yes he used to maintain a 180+ team. Looked like it was mostly personal trainer. Not much manipulating, at most light.

    People are just venting frustrations. Think they wouldn't post here if they didn't care for the game or wanted to quit. I personally like the game at lower levels where I intend to stay.

    You're fast. I wanted to edit the portion on 'little knowledge' as it sounded offensive after I read it. By the way, how are things for u at the top. Able to win trophies? More weird results?
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    Quote Originally Posted by EastsiderSG View Post
    Nowonder he has not been winning as much as before. Yes he used to maintain a 180+ team. Looked like it was mostly personal trainer. Not much manipulating, at most light.

    People are just venting frustrations. Think they wouldn't post here if they didn't care for the game or wanted to quit. I personally like the game at lower levels where I intend to stay.

    You're fast. I wanted to edit the portion on 'little knowledge' as it sounded offensive after I read it. By the way, how are things for u at the top. Able to win trophies? More weird results?
    Actually pretty good, I won 2 more quads in the last 2 seasons, now up to a total of 7 I believe... 5 of them came at top of server.
    But I have no crazy 180% opponents, luckily. I have a few who are like 160% here and there with boost lab and such, but it really is managable so far.

    However I am not a free to play guy, I buy sponsor every season and I spend a lot of time doing offers for free token, where I also take some good deals for money. So on average maybe 15-20€ a month, but so far it pays off and I have fun for the most part.

    So for server top free to play doesn't really work I guess, I know many top server friends with several max teams fighting for the titles... But in lower levels works 100% if you know what you are doing.


    And because I play all these other games to get token, I know that there are tons of stupid base-building games that are all the same with a different skin and color, and they are just pay to win only. And there are literally no fun at all. Against this, top eleven is the best game ever, even with all the sales they implemented lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    Actually pretty good, I won 2 more quads in the last 2 seasons, now up to a total of 7 I believe... 5 of them came at top of server.
    But I have no crazy 180% opponents, luckily. I have a few who are like 160% here and there with boost lab and such, but it really is managable so far.

    However I am not a free to play guy, I buy sponsor every season and I spend a lot of time doing offers for free token, where I also take some good deals for money. So on average maybe 15-20€ a month, but so far it pays off and I have fun for the most part.

    So for server top free to play doesn't really work I guess, I know many top server friends with several max teams fighting for the titles... But in lower levels works 100% if you know what you are doing.


    And because I play all these other games to get token, I know that there are tons of stupid base-building games that are all the same with a different skin and color, and they are just pay to win only. And there are literally no fun at all. Against this, top eleven is the best game ever, even with all the sales they implemented lately.

    Very lucky indeed. 160 really isnt all that bad because you guys have to repeat level. Some servers its much harder with big spenders and as i have mentioned multiple account players. It should get better over time when more players move up which will also give you guys some variety instead of playing the same few teams repeatedly.

    So for servers like yours, pay to win is definitely possible even at the top. Its either the player isn’t doing enough or spending enough if he doesn’t win often. And as always, no one wins everything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Der_Ryan_M View Post
    He is now about to reach top of the server, 1 level below. I know him as well, because a friend plays him now. He has a crazy record and so many trophies...

    But come on, generally TE is a very friendly game when it comes to free to play. There are tons of worse games out there.
    yup, to compared to other games. i believe i play top eleven longer than hearthstone & another game from square enix(heavenstrike rivals) and i've quit hearthstone & that SEnix game already closed their server because they cant sustain & SEnix just abandon them..
    while still playing this worst pay to win game til today!
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