$500 team vs $5 team in CL draw.

[Francois Mourocq]

I too have to meet very high level teams, in the Cup and Champions League, therefore no chance of winning a trophy in these competitions. of course I agree to meet teams at +200% (which N+1) if the player has invested a lot of money, but this is not always the case. Today I am at N102 and the top of the server has 103, and over the last 4 or 5 seasons at least 2 times there has been no rise for the top of the server so all benefits for these teams. So Nordeus must group together several servers to avoid this kind of anomaly which distorts the game somewhat, but unfortunately the problem persists.

[United2019]

is contributing the game still included top eleven policies regarding respect to free or low-budget teams and a widening gap of investing money inequality?

Must we have that monster team created with personal trainer and many boosters every season his starting avq is 50% higher than 2nd highest avq team in same cl and cup draw? Is it really hard to find similar avq teams participating in his competitions? Or you letting him win easy quadruples is a way of saying "thank you" for invested an enormous amount of money by him.


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[EastsiderSG]

@raiko Very anti competitive. I am sure nobody is happy. Many players out there hate walkovers as they say it isn’t fun. Hopefully your well trained players have a chance against his players who mostly have high greys. Hardly see anyone with white skills above 200 in his team.

[RaiKo]

I don’t think that “fair draw” is when all teams are equal or close quality. When someone manager invest time and money in the game he makes it for easy win. I will not going into the psychological profile of this manager, why he need easy win, but this is the reason to invest his hard earned money in the game. So in my opinion it is very unfair to make him meet others strong teams. If I make my team 140-150% quality, I will expect easy draw and easy wins.

Draw 1 AvQ order:
1)170% 2)the team 160% 3)150% 4)135% 5)110% is fair.

Draw 2 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)155% 3)150% 4)145% 5)140% is fair.

Draw 3 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)130% 3)120% 4)115% 5)110% is fair

Draw 4 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)110% 3)105% 4)100% 5)100% is very unfair.

If you make your team 140-150% quality, you should expect to see at least 2-3 tough rivals on your way. It shouldn't be all walkover matches for you, isn't it?

[RaiKo]

@raiko Very anti competitive. I am sure nobody is happy. Many players out there hate walkovers as they say it isn’t fun. Hopefully your well trained players have a chance against his players who mostly have high greys. Hardly see anyone with white skills above 200 in his team.

It could be possible before the updates were pushed in last year. You should be aware of that team's AvQ is the main decider to win a game. Now all of his games are walkover. Zero resistance throughout quadruples. Game should not match up teams which is 30% stronger than second highest team in pots. At least 2-3 teams should be able to win/defend their titles at the beginning of the season. If he invested money to increase the quality gap from 30% to 50% i'd respect it and just shut the feck up.

But if he starts season with 50% gap, i'll be all against this bug he's abusing.

[EastsiderSG]

It could be possible before the updates were pushed in last year. You should be aware of that team's AvQ is the main decider to win a game. Now all of his games are walkover. Zero resistance throughout quadruples. Game should not match up teams which is 30% stronger than second highest team in pots. At least 2-3 teams should be able to win/defend their titles at the beginning of the season. If he invested money to increase the quality gap from 30% to 50% i'd respect it and just shut the feck up.

But if he starts season with 50% gap, i'll be all against this bug he's abusing.

Yup, you’re right. Average quality is the main decider. In fact i noticed well trained teams having less of an advantage against similar quality untrained teams with recent updates. 40 to 50 quality stronger in draws is common though, apparently thats what some players want since many are against manipulating. Anyway, you probably drew him because you are doing well and winning trophies, it gets tougher with consecutive trophies. Give up a few trophies or take a break from the game and it gets easy again.

[po_zdrach]

Draw 1 AvQ order:
1)170% 2)the team 160% 3)150% 4)135% 5)110% is fair.

Draw 2 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)155% 3)150% 4)145% 5)140% is fair.

Draw 3 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)130% 3)120% 4)115% 5)110% is fair

Draw 4 AvQ order:
1)team 160% 2)110% 3)105% 4)100% 5)100% is very unfair.

If you make your team 140-150% quality, you should expect to see at least 2-3 tough rivals on your way. It shouldn't be all walkover matches for you, isn't it?

For me the only fair draw is the next one:

All teams is separated in groups by quality
Group 1 - Teams 160-140%
Group 2 - Teams 140-120%
Group 3 - Teams 120-100%
Group 4 - Teams 100-80%

Draw - 2 (or 3) teams from Group1, 2 (or 3) teams from Group2, 2 (or 3) teams from Group3, 2 (or 3) teams from Group4

[RaiKo]

Had to delete all friends on my Lvl and -1. I hope it works to stay out of the pay to win abuser.

[PricopGeorgeCătălin]

Hi RaiKo,

I do not see any issue here and having this quality gap should be even more often than it is now.

You cannot expect to win same amount of trophy like somebody who invested 10x time or 10x money, is just not fair for them.

Think logical, why would they keep investing money if they do not win anything, why somebody will invest 1000$ if he know he will have to face 13 other teams that invested the same amount of money. Would you think is fair to invest that amount of money or time to with the 10th place for example?

Is like Troys complaining they have to face PSG in Ligue One, saying is not fair.

Personally I do believe the gap should get bigger and I do not agree with Top Eleven when they group the strongest team together based on quality. At best a total random drawing system could be the solution.

[Sillybq]

Had to delete all friends on my Lvl and -1. I hope it works to stay out of the pay to win abuser.

I tried this before and i don’t think it works. In the end, I was advised to tank. But i was told removing all bots/nordeus affiliated accounts and adding real players as friends help but i really can’t tell them apart.

Might wanna consider tanking/manipulating? Tankers have a real chance at beating such players, pressuring them to spend more