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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

the guy probably quit already. you can see from his post that he's level 6 player, a new player yet get paired against 167% team that probably is a player who use dummy account to bully newplayer. (i know these kind of players, i friend them but i hate & loath why they do this) because it's unfair to new players.
imagine someone who loves football manager found online football manager game try to enjoys it then suddenly get paired against monster team who know ins and outs.
if i was him i would quit top11 and go back to play offline football manager because there're no cheaters there. if there is, it's yourself quit losing game and load game before and play again until you win 100% of your matches :)

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Too bad. It depends on server and luck. I managed to get through early levels on 80 to 115 quality. 167 is way over spending at early levels, no skill involved at all to win. To each his own i guess

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Originally Posted by jarharnamme

the guy probably quit already. you can see from his post that he's level 6 player, a new player yet get paired against 167% team that probably is a player who use dummy account to bully newplayer. (i know these kind of players, i friend them but i hate & loath why they do this) because it's unfair to new players.
imagine someone who loves football manager found online football manager game try to enjoys it then suddenly get paired against monster team who know ins and outs.
if i was him i would quit top11 and go back to play offline football manager because there're no cheaters there. if there is, it's yourself quit losing game and load game before and play again until you win 100% of your matches :)

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Hey man, I saw some of your posts too while I was looking around trying to learn the ropes; I noticed you always try to help people.
I thought of answering your post first cause it's the least typing :) No I didn't quit yet lol

My kid dislocated her leg in school while playing don't know the English word for that, the game where there are 2 teams and they have to hit everyone with a ball until there's only one left. well, my brat likes to win and she did some weird move and ef it... Ambulance etc, but it's all O.K. now; she has that thing, not full cast, but half cast, my English is lacking there too.

In short, yes, you explained everything like it is, except that thing with offline and such stuff.. I'll try to play honest and see how far will that take me. If I'll be bullied like that for every season off course I'll quit, I won't join cheaters, that's for sure.
All the best

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Originally Posted by Sillybq

Hope you did ok against the 167 quality guy. I understand it is possible for a 5 star team to beat a 9 star 300 white team from what i read in the ‘teams not levelling up’ post so you might wanna check that out. Sadly i tank, manipulate and intend to upsell sometime in the future. Everything you mentioned and frown upon. Like i said, as long as i aint breaking any rules. I wouldn’t play the game if not for the trophies and it makes me happy. I dont think i am ruining the game for players as i provide some competition for other manipulators. I faced pretty tough manipulating opponents from level 16 or so. If it isnt me, it would be another manipulator. Unless you think 80 quality teams deserve to win by just buying some players at the auctions and being semi active, manipulators like us actually prevent low quality inactive teams from having more trophies than high quality active players.

I tank primarily to face new teams and to prolong my time at lower levels. I dont know. High levels have a really bad rep and i dont like what i hear. Yeah, you have to tank occasionally or face the same teams repeatedly. Around level 20 if my memory doesn’t fail me. For me, 6 months and i feel bored so i am glad i still have this option. And i usually do it more than a season so if the other teams tank as well, i wont need to face them so soon. Anyway, its a good game. You will find having these options useful some day or maybe not

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To each their own friend, everyone faces hurdles and downsides in life in their own way. I don't like it, and when I'm confronted with it I try to fight it. In real life I fight for real, in pixel world I don't really care that much. I'm a retired war vet with family and don't have any wish to burden myself with childish stupidities.

If I see that can not win fair and square in a pixel fight I just choose next game and leave the bullies to wallow in their own mud.
All the best

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Originally Posted by EastsiderSG

Pretty quick to judge i see. Do you think players instinctively know how to manipulate draws? I played years before learning about the forum and it took even more time to learn about how to manipulate. When you see the forum moderator at that time, Nik and his entourage posting trebles month after month, wouldn’t you want to explore and learn other ways to play the game?

There are so many guides on the different playstyles here in the official forum, if they didnt want us to learn and try it, wouldn’t it be removed? I mean they made the effort to alter the date i joined the forum and removed all of my early posts so it shouldn’t be too difficult.

You make it sound like i win effortlessly while manipulating. I wouldn’t have only won 1 Champions league in the last 4 seasons if that were so. There are so many upselling and big spending manipulators. Is it not effort to watch alot of vids and train players? I play in an ultimate association, you think i can get by with a sub standard team while being inactive?

I have never tanked but i do not think it is wrong. Is it wrong to be open minded? There are so many players out there who tank, manipulate and upsell. Are they all unjust? If this wasn’t right by developers standards, wouldn’t they have already done something about it since people have been complaining about it for years?

Quit being an angry victim. They aint gonna risk their bottom line so if you can’t beat us, just join us. No point acting like one of their community leaders who lack influence yet try to manipulate the thoughts of players. Totally no ownership, blaming users for the faults of their game.



Fyi, I endured till level 30 plus with your kind of bs draws against manipulators and tankers before calling it quits. How long do you expect people to put up with such bs. It's not like these early manipulators were humble and nice to us new players back in the day.

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Sugar at the end LOL
See there "champ", I really don't care about you trying to paint yourself as a victim, telling me and others that you "HAVE TO DO IT", cause "others do it too".
That's the lowest kind of self pity and cowerdness I can think of; it's the stuff that makes a decay of all our societies.
S all I can say to you is... well, all I can repeat to you is: I hope your wallowing in mud with other of your kind gives you joy.

And Nordeus... well they count on new players, stupid players; they don't really give a shait as I see it until enough money is rolling in, and if that's more of the excuse for you and your buddies to do it - well just go ahead.ž

Enjoy in YOUR game