This is ridiculous

[shwanko07]

man , I got this player before the season for only 3 tokens )) You'll say he is 25 . So what? + Special ability

so what SA is not that key .. it will help you in 1 out of 3-5 games .. is something extra .. don't be fooled by it.. what is key is his skills
i sell players with SA at younger age of that
25 is old man, he is development is slow .. good short term solution, as u will need to replace him next season
but when you invest 24T .. it will last for 5-6 years minmum more when he is that good high quality trainer
simple math 3X6= 18 T + money you pay them .. that can go as high as 50-80T bcz remember $= tokens

[cracicot]

so what SA is not that key .. it will help you in 1 out of 3-5 games ..

I would love to know how you calculate this.

This is more of a personal observation and useless to anyone else because you cant possibly prove this.

Anyway I don't buy tokens and not gonna sign this player . Even if I had (25) I would rather build a stadium or smth else . I can easely get this type of player at the market for 10 (MAX)

This is just the message to the creators that they are too greedy

Exactly. Only Tommys bother to spend $5-6M on 18yo to power train. The average manager cant afford to spend tokens on that. If they do, they get one player per season with that kind of money to put out.

Or else you end up buying all the freeagents and selling to make $$$, but then you are spending tokens like mad anyways.

[shwanko07]

I would love to know how you calculate this.
This is more of a personal observation and useless to anyone else because you cant possibly prove this.

Exactly. Only Tommys bother to spend $5-6M on 18yo to power train. The average manager cant afford to spend tokens on that. If they do, they get one player per season with that kind of money to put out.

Or else you end up buying all the freeagents and selling to make $$$, but then you are spending tokens like mad anyways.

let us say , i have Freekick SA player, he will score once from a free kick out of 3-4 matches , but have my ST with No special ability scored too in about 3-6 matches doing those free kicks bcz of his superior attacking abilities, so having a freekick SA has helped me to boost my chances by 30% really compared to playing without him
same with my header defender or wall and many others


you have 35T minimum a season without doing any offer ..if you buy one u21 player (with 21T or more or he ain't worth it if slow trainer), take out the 24T and it will still leave you with 11 Tokens to spend on buying players in mid season without bidding war, 2-3 each at younger age.. i bought 2 high end training 18yo with 2 Tokens each in past 2 days

[cracicot]

let us say , i have Freekick SA player, he will score once from a free kick out of 3-4 matches , but have my ST with No special ability scored too in about 3-6 matches doing those free kicks bcz of his superior attacking abilities, so having a freekick SA has helped me to boost my chances by 30% really compared to playing without him
same with my header defender or wall and many others

Your scientific approach is lacking. It is not sufficient to be able to provide any conclusive data other than what you yourself see in your own games. The results from your games alone are not sufficient proof of what you conclude.

[shwanko07]

Your scientific approach is lacking. It is not sufficient to be able to provide any conclusive data other than what you yourself see in your own games. The results from your games alone are not sufficient proof of what you conclude.

ok how many specifically freekicks or penalties your x player score a season?
do your counts and tell me

[Morgan O'Bree]

I would love to know how you calculate this.

This is more of a personal observation and useless to anyone else because you cant possibly prove this.




Exactly. Only Tommys bother to spend $5-6M on 18yo to power train. The average manager cant afford to spend tokens on that. If they do, they get one player per season with that kind of money to put out.

Or else you end up buying all the freeagents and selling to make $$$, but then you are spending tokens like mad anyways.

Last season i had a full SA team and it didnt nearly perform as good as the players with no Sa i raised this season. My old 7* amc scored 11 goals and 12 assists with SS ability while my currrent 7* amc is at 20 goal 10 assist at mid season. Same modules, same mentality.

What youth is, is a mini scout source available to non T buyers. 20+ t for a player who will gain from a min of 1,3 to a max of 1,7 SPs per 30% 3 bars training is a good deal. Your 1 m Q 37 player will cease his usefulness in 1-2 seasons while this one will last. Will you alwais be able to replace your old player for 1 T? No. Will you alwais find one in TL? No.
At avg 1,5 sps x training hard he'll top your older player with about 40 greens and still train super fast.

[cracicot]

Last season i had a full SA team and it didnt nearly perform as good as the players with no Sa i raised this season. My old 7* amc scored 11 goals and 12 assists with SS ability while my currrent 7* amc is at 20 goal 10 assist at mid season. Same modules, same mentality.

What youth is, is a mini scout source available to non T buyers. 20+ t for a player who will gain from a min of 1,3 to a max of 1,7 SPs per 30% 3 bars training is a good deal. Your 1 m Q 37 player will cease his usefulness in 1-2 seasons while this one will last. Will you alwais be able to replace your old player for 1 T? No. Will you alwais find one in TL? No.
At avg 1,5 sps x training hard he'll top your older player with about 40 greens and still train super fast.

Again, your experiences each year will vary and not be a representation of the whole. My 37Q AML/ML was $3M, so a medium trainer and will last more than a few years if he stays healthy.

Face it, youth academies are useless for anyone except Tommys. The one jewel they might produce for a non-buyer is rare.

[herdo#2]

so what SA is not that key .. it will help you in 1 out of 3-5 games .. is something extra .. don't be fooled by it.. what is key is his skills
i sell players with SA at younger age of that
25 is old man, he is development is slow .. good short term solution, as u will need to replace him next season
but when you invest 24T .. it will last for 5-6 years minmum more when he is that good high quality trainer
simple math 3X6= 18 T + money you pay them .. that can go as high as 50-80T bcz remember $= tokens

Tbh you cannot put stuff like this into figures. I can go onto the TL and buy players for 1 token and other times its 10. Im not interested on how fast there going to train as tbh i can buy better, older players that may only last a season but are alot better than my youth product (who with normal training wont level up as fast as i will go up the levels). As for the nonsense about the SA you cannot say that it works 1 in 3/5 games, thats just utter crap! Ive a striker with freekick SA that scores 1 in 3 free kicks, never mind games! Hes scored 150 goals (roughly) in all competitions in 2 and a half seasons. People say the other SA dont work but tbh i think its just that the free kick ability is more memorable, gives you goals where as the others are defending SA.

[cracicot]

Tbh you cannot put stuff like this into figures. I can go onto the TL and buy players for 1 token and other times its 10. Im not interested on how fast there going to train as tbh i can buy better, older players that may only last a season but are alot better than my youth product (who with normal training wont level up as fast as i will go up the levels). As for the nonsense about the SA you cannot say that it works 1 in 3/5 games, thats just utter crap! Ive a striker with freekick SA that scores 1 in 3 free kicks, never mind games! Hes scored 150 goals (roughly) in all competitions in 2 and a half seasons. People say the other SA dont work but tbh i think its just that the free kick ability is more memorable, gives you goals where as the others are defending SA.

Bravo! Well said. I agree completely

[herdo#2]

Bravo! Well said. I agree completely

Thats why when answering queries on here i ask if people a token buyers/ power trainers. Its relevance more than opinion! I dont power train (though i do buy 80 tokens a season, purely as farming is more hassle than its worth) and find that training speed is pretty irrelevant as players, regardless of speed arent fast enough on normal training. For the big token buyer/pwer trainer then training speeds are very relevant as they want as much bang for their buck as they can get.

Think more people should state their preference (non token buyer/token buyer/power trainer/both) when asking questions so that the right people on here can give the right advice.